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Post by kungfro on Jan 3, 2019 16:49:30 GMT
Damn. There aren't very many main protagonists as cocky and as much of an asshole as Joe. Love this angle a lot and already seeing great strides towards his character development. Ended up watching the first 7 episodes in one go. Kept waiting for him to swallow his pride at some point and stop things from getting worse, but he just refused to back down and dug himself deeper.
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Post by kungfro on Jan 3, 2019 16:50:29 GMT
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 3, 2019 20:00:46 GMT
Ended up watching the first 7 episodes in one go. Kept waiting for him to swallow his pride at some point and stop things from getting worse, but he just refused to back down and dug himself deeper. That's what I expected too, but it makes the story much more intriguing in this direction. It made the story better. The changes are gradual and not major but you'll definitely enjoy the shift.
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Post by kungfro on Jan 5, 2019 21:16:54 GMT
My god Joe is just a ball of anger, I love it. Non-stop cockiness too.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 5, 2019 22:33:47 GMT
My god Joe is just a ball of anger, I love it. Non-stop cockiness too. Feels like you are watching a biography on a nba athlete His behavior and backstory is very similar to them. He also does it while being so composed too
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 7, 2019 3:38:16 GMT
Ashita no Joe got a little weaker on the last third (you'll see why), but goddamn Ashita no Joe 2 is levels above that last third. So well directed, to the point, production value high for a TV, explains much better than its prequel, shows more relevant scenes, flows better, etc
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 7, 2019 7:23:37 GMT
There is really no character as developed as Joe. The writing for him is some amazing stuff.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 13, 2019 2:59:26 GMT
Ashita no Joe 2's soundtrack is good. I wanna download that whenever I have a chance.
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Post by kungfro on Jan 13, 2019 21:53:02 GMT
Ashita no Joe 2's soundtrack is good. I wanna download that whenever I have a chance. I'm finished up to 29 now. Been surprised at how well the animation holds up for a show from 1970. I've never found the quality of animation to be distracting in the way that shows from the same era like Aim for the Ace or Cutie Honey were at times.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 13, 2019 23:02:29 GMT
Ashita no Joe 2's soundtrack is good. I wanna download that whenever I have a chance. I'm finished up to 29 now. Been surprised at how well the animation holds up for a show from 1970. I've never found the quality of animation to be distracting in the way that shows from the same era like Aim for the Ace or Cutie Honey were at times. Yeah. Animation wise it's good for its time. Some coloring is off though in a couple of frames but nothing that glares out. Ashita no Joe 2 though is a noticeable jump in quality animation. The thing that I found in the first season is the character expression isn't as fitting to the situation but that isn't an animation issue which the first Macross suffered the same fate.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 14, 2019 3:45:56 GMT
Ashita no Joe definitely has a great ending with one of the all-time best quotes.
There's not an anime quite like this and enough to say it was a masterpiece.
The only major knock I can give it is Joe lacked the ability to craft his techniques which hampered some of the fights. He did improve (and series showed it) but he should since he was very raw as a fighter.
Much like LotGH, old anime gets things right in terms of actually going through what most would not go to or tease about it.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 19, 2019 15:54:55 GMT
Hey Kungfro,
For Patlabor:
Is it right to assume that I should start with the 7 OVA then the 3 movies before going on with the 47 on TV and 16 new OVA?
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Post by kungfro on Jan 19, 2019 16:15:11 GMT
Hey Kungfro, For Patlabor: Is it right to assume that I should start with the 7 OVA then the 3 movies before going on with the 47 on TV and 16 new OVA? I think that's a good way to tackle it. The first 2 movies are probably the highlight of the series, though I enjoyed all of it.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 23, 2019 5:16:22 GMT
Captain Tylor had a slow first episode, but the second episode was quite funny. A master of flattery and smooth talk.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 23, 2019 6:07:04 GMT
Tylor is the Yang Wenli of this anime. A normal guy just naturally doing his job to get that pension so he can retire early. Master of strategy without trying.
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Post by kungfro on Jan 23, 2019 19:19:01 GMT
Five Star Stories was certainly different. Very shoujo, bit confusing at times, but carried by some pretty strong visuals. Kinda split on whether or not I would recommend it. It is only an hour, so there is that I guess.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 25, 2019 5:32:48 GMT
I like the Empress/Highness for the Tylor series. That's how you draw a design with the presence of a nose.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 25, 2019 5:33:44 GMT
Five Star Stories was certainly different. Very shoujo, bit confusing at times, but carried by some pretty strong visuals. Kinda split on whether or not I would recommend it. It is only an hour, so there is that I guess.
Being only an hour makes it easier to watch anyways. I haven't tried Shoujo mecha yet. I've been meaning to try Escaflowne.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 26, 2019 11:53:15 GMT
That non firing confrontation reminded me a lot of LotGH. Space orchestral music (I missed this as I'm getting feelings of nostalgia) played and the more it kept going back and forth between the captains, thinking that Tylor is a parody of Yang Wen-li made me think Dom is a parody of Reinhard.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Jan 26, 2019 16:34:13 GMT
If they're going to play that awful soundtrack everytime Utena Rose duels as well as "censor" shit with that tacky white rose on the top, this show is going to be difficult to appreciate.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 3, 2019 7:22:45 GMT
Devilman Lady (so far) is so much better than the original Devilman
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 3, 2019 7:32:26 GMT
By the way, nice avy kungfro
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Post by kungfro on Feb 3, 2019 20:02:51 GMT
So did Utena live up to the hype for you?
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Post by kungfro on Feb 3, 2019 21:25:12 GMT
By the way, nice avy kungfro Been such a good watch so far. Only negative thing I would have to say is the gimmicky nature of the moves involved. Reminds me of aim for the ace in that way.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 3, 2019 21:36:54 GMT
Suguru101 might want to read this as well although he might not be too proud of what I am going to say So did Utena live up to the hype for you? Nope. It didn't. I actually didn't read the synopsis when i watched, so all of this came as a surprise First, i am not much of a fan of romance centric stories whether it breeds jealousy, hatred, betrayal, cheating, manipulation, blind love, corruption, etc. Coupled with me not liking anything prince-princess driven content (and how it forces much of the situations to be like this). It's not something I can go and say i thoroughly enjoy it as there is a low margin of error in execution and right direction for me to say it's some kind of masterpiece. And Utena to my surprise has all of its stories that is centered around romance except maybe one indirect which didn't do me any favors . So in essence, the whole series is composed of a ridiculous love polygon only for the characters to direct their hatred or aggression on Utena all because of Akio playing mental chess on everyone even IF their hatred is on someone else. Second, the things the series did, didn't help. The routine trip to the rose duel arena was quite annoying as I pointed out in the earlier post. The soundtrack for that ticked me off. Took too long each time. The censorship whether it's a rose on top of the fight (hell it censored when the prince spirit entered Utena) or the scene cuts to another place once they charge, get stabbed or whatever. It's one thing for a Kids show but it isn't a kids show with the themes that were being explored. And once you get several episodes through, you really realize how formulaic this was. I know Akio manipulated all the results but it doesn't scream logical and real situations when seemingly every character is dueling Utena despite them having no issue with Utena. It's one thing for them to fight Utena to get through rose princess but people like Juri or nanami's minion loving touga get involved is just not fitting (their dark hearts being channeled out from the black rose ring) as there is nothing they have against Utena Now for the pros, my favorite scenes are the shadow girls providing metaphorical descriptions of what's to come (or what occurred), the psyche to the theme's approach of that episode in a not so obvious executed manner of what the creators were thinking but an obvious metaphor that you know is present and open to interpretation of the actual messages it brings, and it's quite entertaining . The show also improved much on their character depth in the last third of coupled with more complex woven situations yet revealing bits of the mystery and tying things together i. E. Utena's encounter of the prince and why she needed to be a prince to protect the rose princess. I also like the not so serious scenes in its approach to fanservice (perhaps parodying off of it) So basically in short, nothing really gripped me into the series 2/3 in given its uninspiring, average entertainment value, formulaic expected content. But there was at least something in each episode (mainly shadow girls) that didn't ruin my entire watching experience. The show also took a well needed turn 1/3 and felt like it now had traction, direction, and a general overall shift in the overall atmosphere of the show. If you want something positive out of this, Utena is on the positive spectrum and romance is my worst rated weighted genre so far which helps Utena's position a little context wise
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 3, 2019 21:55:59 GMT
Several things to also note
I like a good story but if there really isn't a character that i appreciate in the entire series or there are characters i do not like centric to the plot (ie Rose Princess) , my enjoyment is gonna take a dive
I thought Juri episodes were consistently the better ones. I do like Touga's change the further the series went through. Same with Nanami although a significant part of her earlier episodes were one of worst parts of Utena series. Utena's blind obsession (with no memory of what he looks like) over this prince who gave her the ring (and not the actual focus of her wanting to be a prince instead since that gets thrown out the window everytime she thinks she sees her prince) killed some joy too. Rose princess being one dimensional up until her backstory and the last episode yet every dude seems to want to dry hump her despite not even having the best design (her hair going down though changes perspective)
None of the fights hyped me up. Yeah she was chopping cars, touga and saionji doing taking out the sword ritual was a. Nice twist, cars nonsensically being vertical and driving around the arena, but i was not impressed. Quite underwhelming
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 9, 2019 21:09:16 GMT
That Patlabor machine gun scene against the police cars was awesome animation
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Feb 10, 2019 1:57:09 GMT
First movie was great. Love the analysis and finding out Hoba's criminal intent and what caused Patlabors with the HOS to malfunction. The fluidity of the animation is well done and I like the music placement like the OVA as usual.
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Post by kungfro on Feb 10, 2019 3:34:08 GMT
Patlabor I think is still my favorite all time mecha. More then any other mecha I just love the characters. The near future setting is a cool twist on it as well.
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Post by kungfro on Feb 10, 2019 3:45:01 GMT
First movie was great. Love the analysis and finding out Hoba's criminal intent and what caused Patlabors with the HOS to malfunction. The fluidity of the animation is well done and I like the music placement like the OVA as usual. Love that battle with Noa and the type zero at the end. Second movie goes full on Oshii. That opening sequence is art.
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