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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 15:54:24 GMT
Did you guys like that Masai played down expectations with his 2-10 quote? I kind of agree with him on it, but I don't necessarily think it's true. In the playoffs usually the team with the better coach prevails especially in the first round. He said that in the context of the Eastern Conference getting better than it has been in the past. He was boosting the East because he also said he looks forward to competing with the Pacers and winning. Masai at the end of the day is a GM and it's his job to makes a sales pitch too. Ah okay I just saw what Zach Lowe said on that and didn't know the exact frame of reference he said it in. Then that's cool IMO. Still worried about them against the Pacers though.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 13, 2016 15:54:32 GMT
Probably a good thing because the players should do the talking.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 13, 2016 16:01:25 GMT
He said that in the context of the Eastern Conference getting better than it has been in the past. He was boosting the East because he also said he looks forward to competing with the Pacers and winning. Masai at the end of the day is a GM and it's his job to makes a sales pitch too. Ah okay I just saw what Zach Lowe said on that and didn't know the exact frame of reference he said it in. Then that's cool IMO. Still worried about them against the Pacers though. Toronto won the season series 3-1. The last game they played each other was on Friday and they won in a blowout fashion beat with essentially their 2nd and 3rd unit vs their A unit. Pacers 18-27 vs .500 or above teams. Raptors 28-15 vs .500 or above teams. Pacers 18-22 on the road, lost both games at the ACC. Raptors 23-17 on the road and their only loss in their building was when the team was on a back to back. Raptors are the better overall team. Key to stopping the Pacers is to continue to shackle PG, don't let them get off on 3 (Raptors are bad in this area), and don't let their bench get any confidence. I'm confident 2 of the 3 will happen and the Raptors should win in either 5 or 6.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2016 16:04:56 GMT
I get the numbers, I just don't know. I feel like it'll be a longer series that's going to be a tough one 6-7. I have no rational basis I just was watching the standings hoping the Pistons got up to 7 because I felt that was a better match up for them. Just a weird guy feeling.
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Post by BurningHammer on Apr 13, 2016 16:08:28 GMT
At least I won't expect a sweep like the last season. Everything points toward Raps winning the series but I just can't be 100% on it. It could be a lot of nail-biting wins that they usually do against any teams again.
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Post by Steve Nash on Apr 13, 2016 16:15:05 GMT
Raps in 5 or 6.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 13, 2016 16:29:30 GMT
I get the numbers, I just don't know. I feel like it'll be a longer series that's going to be a tough one 6-7. I have no rational basis I just was watching the standings hoping the Pistons got up to 7 because I felt that was a better match up for them. Just a weird guy feeling. Pistons don't have experience and a bench, but you always figure a front court like Morris-Harris-Drummond would be a weird matchup for anyone. They might not stretch the floor, but when they do... how do you defend that ? I'm confident enough the Raptors can beat both of them. I have that weird feeling too. I think it's just negative thoughts more than anything.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 13, 2016 16:55:23 GMT
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Post by kungfro on Apr 14, 2016 0:04:46 GMT
Nets vs 905. Bruno starting tonight, worth watching for that alone.
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Post by BurningHammer on Apr 14, 2016 0:30:18 GMT
So how many years away for Bruno to be 2 years away again? He doesn't look good so far and 905 is getting trashed by a scrub NBA team.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 14, 2016 0:42:29 GMT
This game was awful to start. Bless the souls who are watching this all the way.
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Post by kungfro on Apr 14, 2016 1:06:03 GMT
This game was awful to start. Bless the souls who are watching this all the way. I have it on in the background, really just killing time until kobe.
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Post by BurningHammer on Apr 14, 2016 2:11:20 GMT
Norman with 30 points
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Post by kungfro on Apr 14, 2016 2:23:32 GMT
56-26 4th best record in the NBA
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Post by kungfro on Apr 15, 2016 21:56:06 GMT
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Post by jimmymcadocious on Apr 25, 2016 0:01:18 GMT
So what's up with Ross? Is this a he is who is is situation? I always think he should be better than his stats show.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 25, 2016 0:03:12 GMT
So what's up with Ross? Is this a he is who is is situation? Been like that post 2014. He was considered "NBA ready" on draft night. Whatever low ceiling he had, he never was going to tap into it after 2014. He just had an awful run and hasn't particularly recovered from it.
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Post by TheEther on Apr 25, 2016 0:47:34 GMT
Do you think guys think Masai will make big changes this offseason or next year?
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 25, 2016 0:50:36 GMT
Do you think guys think Masai will make big changes this offseason or next year He has 4 first rounders and will have some cap space to work with. He should probably opt to do it sooner rather than later. Lowry probably can't keep up his level once his contract is done. I don't know what they will do with DeMar. One thing is for sure, I can trust Masai's drafts and trades. I don't know if he van sign the big piece FA though.
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Post by TheEther on Apr 25, 2016 0:53:05 GMT
Do you think guys think Masai will make big changes this offseason or next year He had 4 first rounders and will have some cap space to work with. He should probably opt to do it sooner rather than later. Lowry probably can't keep up his level once his contract is done. I don't know what they will do with DeMar. One thing is for sure, I can trust Masai's drafts and trades. I don't know if he van sign the big piece FA though. I would try to get rid of Ross and find another creator. What's the highest pick the Raptors have. Do they have the Knicks pick?
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 25, 2016 10:56:37 GMT
He had 4 first rounders and will have some cap space to work with. He should probably opt to do it sooner rather than later. Lowry probably can't keep up his level once his contract is done. I don't know what they will do with DeMar. One thing is for sure, I can trust Masai's drafts and trades. I don't know if he van sign the big piece FA though. I would try to get rid of Ross and find another creator. What's the highest pick the Raptors have. Do they have the Knicks pick? I don't think it would be a good idea to move Ross yet, but he does have a lot of value in a league for a league that is moving for more 3&D players. If you do move him, the Raptors need a PF that can space and play D. I don't think they would realistically let DeMar walk either like most believe. He probably comes back but on a lower deal and if possible to trade him, he would probably retain more assets because of his all-star label. The Raptors are destined to pick 9th in this upcoming draft (Knicks pick). Doubt they part with it, but their next year's pick they would look to trade it. Masai has hinted he is not likely to use all 4 first round draft picks in the next 2 years.
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Post by Qwyjibo on Apr 25, 2016 17:57:37 GMT
So what's up with Ross? Is this a he is who is is situation? I always think he should be better than his stats show. He's dumb. For example, Norman Powell this year showed more on-court IQ than Ross will probably show his entire career. Ross has a very good perimeter shot but his lack of bball IQ and lack of ball-handling skills will hold him back.
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Post by Last Stand on Apr 26, 2016 17:23:01 GMT
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Post by BurningHammer on May 28, 2016 15:39:45 GMT
Okay, Raps are entering the off-season now. With a 9th pick overall and more money to spend soon, what should they do?
Draft: there will be enough choices to replace front court guys such as Scola, JJ and maybe Biyombo. Domantas Sabonis, Jakob Poeltl, Marquese Chriss, Deyonta Davis, Skal Labissiere, Henry Ellenson, and Brice Johnson may be available by that time. The best choice so far maybe Chriss based on his athleticism and skill set. Raps could go for potential guys like Davis or Skal or ready-to-play guys ala Norman Powell like Brice Johnson. I would love to see a Lithuanian duo of JV and Sabonis as well.
Free agent: the next cap is estimated to be around $90-110 million. If it goes over, Raps will have around $30-40 mil to play around if Derozan and Bismack opt not to stay, and may have enough money to max-contract one superstar if one or both choose to stay for one more season.
It depends if Demar really wants to win the championship with Lowry and takes one more chance with Raptors. If he does, he should stay with the current contract and let Masai signs one more superstar for max. If it fails both Lowry and Derozan can walk out together getting bigger money elsewhere in 2017-18. Signing Demar with a max contract and then signing a upper-mid-tier free agent maybe alright as well.
Bismack will demand much more money and the chance of him staying seems low to me. Gonna miss him a lot if he leaves though.
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Post by Steve Nash on May 28, 2016 17:02:50 GMT
I want Ross gone.
I don't think DeMar is worth a max. He definitely stepped it up at times in the playoffs but in today's league I don't like committing max money to a shooting guard who can't shoot threes or defend well.
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Post by jimmymcadocious on May 28, 2016 20:28:53 GMT
I really like Sabonis from what I've seen. I think he would be a nice fit. Him and Jakob Poeltl. Love both of them.
As someone who has watched every second of Brice's career and wanted him to start over McAdoo (or at least next to him...) back in 2013, I wouldn't draft him that high. I can do a quick writeup...
Actually, I'll go with his positives first.
-He was a late bloomer, which I'm always big, big, fan of. Made clear improvements in each season. -Son of a basketball coach. Also a fan of that. -He's an incredible athlete. I mean head at rim. Literally, I've seen his head at the rim on some alley oops. There's an alley he caught against duke at Cameron this past season where you can see just how high he gets. He also possess an elite second jump, which he utilizes on the offensive glass well. He was a repeat state champ in SC running hurdles. So there's that. As a requisite to play in Roy's system, he runs the floor consistently and hard. -He's a supremely gifted offensive player. Left hand jump hook, right hand jump hook, turn around jumper, 15 foot jumper, and he's very talented passer. The latter is interesting because he was a black hole his first three years and then all of a sudden he was dropping dimes like... Well, Sabonis (the dad). Not quite that good. You get it... Nice outlet and terrific in the high post. Watch the @syracuse down the stretch (final 7-8 minutes, I think?) high-low between him and Hicks. Absolutely destroyed their zone. Best I've seen a UNC post player against that zone in my life. When he gets it going on offense, he's pretty much unstoppable. I think that holds relatively true in the pros because he gets his shots off as quickly as Jamison used to. Not as unorthodox, just as fast. I've seen him before games and he strokes threes effortlessly. I think he extends his range in the pros. Honestly he reminds me so much of a mini-Sheed, right down the personality... Also should note he makes contested shots. You can be right in his face and because of how quickly he gets his looks off and how much elevation he has on all of his offensive movies, it's tough to guard. -Rebounds well out of his area. His major problem his first three seasons were motor issues. That wasn't an issue this past year and that led to him being one of the best rebounders in the country. -IMO, overlooked season. Even as a first team AA. Third highest PER in the NCAA, surrounded by a bunch of mid major players. Think he was second or tied for first in double-doubles among P5 players, right behind or tied with Ben Simmons. Second in win shares per 40 in the P5. 5th in +/-. Best player on arguably the best team. Should have been at least in the conversation for NPOY, rather than maybe he even deserves to be an AA (which I know some pundits had articles about. Looking at your Mike Douchebag at TSN).
And why I wouldn't draft him that high: -Frame. He's skinny with narrow-ish shoulders and that's never going to change. He put on weight before the season and it hindered his leaping ability. He needs to be skinny and that's going to kill his upside in the pros. Since his lateral quickness/strength combo isn't good enough to guard too many 4s who can handle or bruisers in the paint, I foresee some defensive issues. Also hurts on offense where guys can be physical with him on ball denial and take him out of the game. Nova did that him in the championship game. Seen it happen in other games over his career. -Way too many defensive lapses. He can make it up with his athleticism sometimes at the college level, but we're talking NBA here. Maybe a coach can help him fix that. I don't know. It was a major problem at UNC. Even last year. -Possible not a ref favorite sort of player. As in, he tends to scream at the top of his lungs after a dunk or block. I've seen him hang on the rim after a dunk on occasion that probably should have warranted a tech. He had a problem with pouting when things didn't go his way his first three years. Not so much last season, but something to keep in mind since I doubt he's going to be particularly dominant in the pros. And that exuberance is what makes him go. He needs to scream after a dunk sometimes to keep his energy high. Take the good with the bad I suppose. I know teammates sometimes feed of that sort of personality, see Draymond Green. -I question his ability and upside to handle the ball. Not saying you want him to be Boris Diaw. With his offensive and athletic ability, tho, I think if he could just take guys off the three point line (which I suspect he extends to) with one or two dribbles he could be dangerous in the pros. His handle is rough and not sure he can ever get it good enough to be a threat off the dribble. So that means primarily post ups (again, where strength will be an issue) or pick and pop all day. Not a big deal. Another thing that limits the upside.
I'm looking at a mock draft right now and see Brice at 27 (to Toronto, of all places). I think that's a good spot for him. Seeing some of the players above him I might draft him late teens/early 20s. At that point in the draft it's usually need, anyway. Tho I did read he improved his stock at the combine.
I think his ideal role would be a Mo Speights off the bench type. Better rebounder. Mo has a bigger frame to help him in the post on defense, not that he's plays good defense. I can't escape the Sheed comparison because of how much I've seen of both and the school. I say mini because he doesn't have some tools Sheed had (little shorter, bit less length, and not near the basketball IQ) and he will never have them. Something more relatable to Toronto fans, I can see sort of Amir Johnson. Amir is better on defense. Similar physical profiles. Basically I think he's going to be an energy/instant offense big off the bench. Not that players like that can't be very valuable to the right team.
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Post by Last Stand on May 30, 2016 17:35:04 GMT
I'll believe it when I see it.
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Post by BurningHammer on May 31, 2016 0:54:17 GMT
I'll believe it when I see it. I think Bismack may get around $6M, PatPat's range.
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Post by Last Stand on Jun 2, 2016 16:16:32 GMT
Yah ?
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Post by Last Stand on Jun 2, 2016 18:05:22 GMT
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