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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 2:19:26 GMT
whoops meant to take out the mixtape comment. i do agree with that though
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Post by Maniak on Jan 11, 2017 2:44:07 GMT
artists need to make shorter projects bigger artists need to start putting together mixtapes that dont feel like obvious throwaways and stop charging for "mixtapes" tde will probably never again sign a talented artist the first is interesting. i feel like the opposite is true for a lot of major releases (sans views which was way too long). it feels like everybody is making 13-14 song albums with most of them being in the 3-4 minute range. for example soul's new album is 16 tracks but each one is like 5-6 minutes with only like 2 of them being less than 5. i feel like that's more the exception than the norm now. could just be my own perception tho and disagree with the second for...reasons  lol Yeah Soul's album is one of those ones that goes on too long. Cudi was 19 tracks. Tory Lanez probably released ~60 songs this year. Ty$ went with 16 songs. Post Malone 18. Danny Brown at 15 felt like 5 too many. Game dropped 2 throwaway mixtapes/eps. PND went from 10 on his first project to 12 on his second to 16 on his third and each one gets progressively worse. I think Tech N9nes album was almost 40 but I'll never know. ^ That was just me scrolling through a few albums I have (Tech excluded) Sometimes it just feels like I'd hold a bunch of artists in way higher regard if they dropped like a 10 song album or a few 5 song eps. I'm nitpicky
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Post by Maniak on Jan 11, 2017 2:46:23 GMT
The correlation of them working together and his quality getting worse. how does that make sense though when they've been collaborating since 2011/2012 I just think that, had Future not collabed with Drake to the extent that he has, I would view his overall career as much better. Things they do together are not as good as things they do apart Future helping fuel Drake's fake gangster persona is not a good thing I'm sorry to speak ill of Future.
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Post by Maniak on Jan 11, 2017 2:50:09 GMT
I guess so? I just don't really think either have the great projects / runs like other rappers who are considered GOAT. Like each one only has a handful of good songs but they're considered some of the best to ever rap. I just sort of get lost as to where this GOAT level rapping is when I listen to one of their projects. I figured maybe u were talking about how some current rappers thought they were overrated or couldn't name their songs. Personally I think ready to die and all eyez on me are classic albums that I still listen to especially the latter I honestly don't think I'll ever be able to sit down and listen to Ready or Die front to back without dozing off and/or spacing out. 17 Biggie songs (I guess some of them are skits)? Really? I guess my unpopular music opinion is that Biggie is pretty horrible and tremendously overrated. And I don't really like a chunk of All Eyez on Me. I cannot listen to any of Tupacs slow/emotional/whatever songs. Pac shits all over Biggie for me though
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 2:53:10 GMT
the first is interesting. i feel like the opposite is true for a lot of major releases (sans views which was way too long). it feels like everybody is making 13-14 song albums with most of them being in the 3-4 minute range. for example soul's new album is 16 tracks but each one is like 5-6 minutes with only like 2 of them being less than 5. i feel like that's more the exception than the norm now. could just be my own perception tho and disagree with the second for...reasons  lol Yeah Soul's album is one of those ones that goes on too long. Cudi was 19 tracks. Tory Lanez probably released ~60 songs this year. Ty$ went with 16 songs. Post Malone 18. Danny Brown at 15 felt like 5 too many. Game dropped 2 throwaway mixtapes/eps. PND went from 10 on his first project to 12 on his second to 16 on his third and each one gets progressively worse. I think Tech N9nes album was almost 40 but I'll never know. ^ That was just me scrolling through a few albums I have (Tech excluded) Sometimes it just feels like I'd hold a bunch of artists in way higher regard if they dropped like a 10 song album or a few 5 song eps. I'm nitpicky can def respect that. i feel like a lot of people want that too. with how accessible music is nowadays people start to get antsy if u wait 2-3 years between albums. i personally like the album --> spot features --> loosie tracks --> album cycle spanning over the course of like 1.5-2 years. i think that builds anticipation without giving away too much too soon. but i also think that cycle can shorten or lengthen depending on the kinda of music u make, but that's another story
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Post by Maniak on Jan 11, 2017 2:57:14 GMT
I think the hardest part is getting a label to agree to have an artist who wants to say, release 2 6 song EPs over a year or two or something weird like that Like...nah. That's not going to happen.
I understand the industry of it. The cycle could be a whole not worse. Like at least there's content.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 3:03:18 GMT
and maybe this is an old man comment but im getting tired of the memes inside of rap. i don't want to sound like i take it so seriously because i don't but i think it's just that the memes are corny and unfortunately the people who are responsible for making songs/memes popular are mostly cornballs on twitter/reddit/4chan or whatever. i have a sense of humor but im on board with garth about the memes overshadowing the actual song as a whole. i don't know if it's necessarily creating a war of who can be the most ridiculous, but i almost feel as if people don't appreciate how good songs like bad and boujee actually are outside of the novelty of a 3-4 second snippet. or how talented dram is. they just see this nigga's goofy ass smile looking like a jordan peele character and rush to retweet that shit for internet cred.
it takes me back to when we saw schoolboy at flog gnaw: he asked if people wanted to hear songs from oxymoron or blank face and i was like the only person yelling "habits and contradictions!!!" while all these punks were screaming for oxymoron. to top it off, the second to last song he did was tookie knows ii and outside of the first hook no one was singing that shit. i don't give a fuck how tired or high u were, that shit was the hardest junt on the album and there's no justification for not knowing any of the verses on that song or not doing the hook after the first time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 3:06:38 GMT
I think the hardest part is getting a label to agree to have an artist who wants to say, release 2 6 song EPs over a year or two or something weird like that Like...nah. That's not going to happen. I understand the industry of it. The cycle could be a whole not worse. Like at least there's content. nah that would never happen. but with a lot of artists trying to stay independent or at least only do publishing through majors u may see it happen more. but my opinion on it is biased because i usually spend months listening to mostly the same songs. or i may hear something and it won't grow on me until 3-4 months later. i don't think a lot of current music consumers are like that now and that's been perpetuated by the industry imo
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Post by althornton on Jan 14, 2017 6:21:45 GMT
autotune is great
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 2:00:26 GMT
mid-late 90s twista is top 10 all time
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 15, 2017 3:49:04 GMT
mid-late 90s twista is top 10 all time adrenaline rush is a perfect album
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 4:14:55 GMT
mid-late 90s twista is top 10 all time adrenaline rush is a perfect album agreed. i liked everything twista did during that era, even his shit with the speednot mobstaz was good
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 15, 2017 15:31:00 GMT
adrenaline rush is a perfect album agreed. i liked everything twista did during that era, even his shit with the speednot mobstaz was good He's known to rap as that fast rapper but his actual flow and lyrics are retarded. he never gets mentioned with the "greats" but fuck it, he's as good as any of those bums if u ask me don't know how unpopular this is but lil wayne on weezy's ambitionz is a straight up better rapper than anyone of the last 10 years i dont even care
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Post by bladefd on Jan 15, 2017 21:22:58 GMT
Why do you guys only like rap? Do any of you listen to any other genre?
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 15, 2017 21:51:06 GMT
Why do you guys only like rap? Do any of you listen to any other genre? Is this your unpopular opinion?
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Post by bladefd on Jan 15, 2017 21:54:26 GMT
Why do you guys only like rap? Do any of you listen to any other genre? Is this your unpopular opinion? It's a question, buddy.
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 15, 2017 22:01:57 GMT
somehow that buddy didn't feel very buddyish
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 22:40:26 GMT
why's blade gotten so weird all of a sudden?
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Post by bladefd on Jan 15, 2017 23:23:29 GMT
somehow that buddy didn't feel very buddyish nah, it was an honest question. Do you guys listen to genres other than rap? I see some pop/soft rock here and there once in a while.
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Post by bladefd on Jan 15, 2017 23:24:47 GMT
why's blade gotten so weird all of a sudden? Weird? Are you and al still mad at me because of the stuff I said about rap? :/
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Post by althornton on Jan 15, 2017 23:28:55 GMT
Guys 65-76% of rap is negative
don't u understand this !!!!
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Post by bladefd on Jan 16, 2017 0:09:07 GMT
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Post by fiddy on Jan 16, 2017 0:22:47 GMT
Kevin Gates is the GOAT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 0:31:50 GMT
why's blade gotten so weird all of a sudden? Weird? Are you and al still mad at me because of the stuff I said about rap? :/ it has nothing to do with that. u've just been overly confrontational then u just go "i'm sorry guys, just playing" u bipolar or something?
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Post by bladefd on Jan 16, 2017 1:17:06 GMT
Weird? Are you and al still mad at me because of the stuff I said about rap? :/ it has nothing to do with that. u've just been overly confrontational then u just go "i'm sorry guys, just playing" u bipolar or something? I enjoy arguing when I feel strongly about something. Plus, you asked for unpopular music opinions - I told you 65% of rap is about negativity. I didn't say 65% of rap sucks... I listen to rap along with multiple other genres. I just feel hip-hop is an overrated genre with bunch of rappers who probably can't even do basic algebra (idiots like 50-cent who can't even read) 
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Post by bladefd on Jan 16, 2017 1:25:41 GMT
My issue is not with you guys btw. Don't ever think that for a moment. Only person I ever had legit issues on here with was Tom and briefly Jam over the summer. I just have an argumentative nature which is probably why you think I am confrontational. Once an argument is over, I just stop, pull back and return to normal. And no, it is not anger/temper issues lol
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 2:03:29 GMT
50 cent is a multimillionaire successful business who doesn't even have to make music anymore. how is he an idiot?
and it's not about being argumentative either but nvm. fair enough
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Post by bladefd on Jan 16, 2017 3:37:06 GMT
50 cent is a multimillionaire successful business who doesn't even have to make music anymore. how is he an idiot?
and it's not about being argumentative either but nvm. fair enough That's what I mean - people see he (or whoever) has made money and think everything stops there. No, life is much bigger than that. I have a fundamental issue with things that go against intellectualism and where success is judged not by knowledge but rather by the revenue generated. This is the very thing wrong with society nowadays where we put so much attention on money and the self to the point where we overlook what moves society forward - things like knowledge, ideas, science, technology, engineering, mathematics. You know something is wrong when a rapper off the streets or athlete or coach is making 10-20x or more than someone highly respected in STEM position. You know it is a problem when entertainment is appreciated more than something that requires actual specialized knowledge of sorts. Do you put something like success in rapping or Kardashian show on same level as someone out there getting PhD in Physics or Computer Engineering or becoming a dentist or something? I don't. It just makes me disappointed how low our standards have become. I know I'm going off topic here, but I hope you see where I'm coming from. It worries me and keeps me awake at nights to see how we as society continue to go away from knowledge (using vague term in name of simplicity). It feels as if people are just being lazy. i.e. when it comes to reading: "I don't have time to read... Why would I want to read? ... I don't need to read bc I will never use it in life... etc etc." Reminds me of Floyd Mayweather who said something like he doesn't need to learn to read perfectly because he is not a journalist -- you don't have to be a damn journalist to read stuff lol.. People are quick to make BS excuses. We read and write and learn because we are part of the human race. We cannot afford to be complacent individually or collectively. Pretty much everyone and anyone can chase after knowledge and learn. There is no excuse. Floyd is smart enough to read, write, learn or whatever like anyone in the world - don't ever sell yourself short in life. That's just one example.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2017 3:46:08 GMT
i didn't mention his money as a symbol of intelligence, i mentioned it because if u listen to him talk about business and look at the business he's conducted throughout his career u would realize that he's far from dumb. his last big album came out ~10 years ago yet he's still relevant and successful. u don't do that if ur stupid
and u care too much about what other people do. mothafuckers are gonna do what they're gonna do regardless. who gives a shit if people are dumb and some are smart? we all shit the same and are all gonna die at the end of the day. off topic but i just thought id address that
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Post by Steve Nash on Jan 16, 2017 3:47:01 GMT
Taylor Swift is the truth.
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