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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 21:25:52 GMT
this the thread to just start shit.
ill start:
lil b is the most influential rapper of the 2010s so far
kendrick peaked with gkmc and is not even the best rapper in tde (soul is)
lupe was on point with his lyrics about jew execs running shit
trap music is great but the genre (despite how broad it is) has gotten kinda stale
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Post by SugarHill on Dec 23, 2016 22:00:10 GMT
Charles Hamilton had better flow and lyrics than cole and kendrick and if he didn't turn into a loon should be in their spot
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 22:01:51 GMT
i fucked with charles heavy back in the day. well isnt this awkward is one of the best projects ive ever heard
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2016 22:03:57 GMT
tbh i don't think cole is even that great lyrically or technically. he's smart for dumb niggas i guess.
i also just really dislike the way he spells his song titles and albums now: with numbers replacing letters and z replacing s. very early 90s shit
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Post by tsk on Dec 24, 2016 13:59:31 GMT
There are less than 5 rappers who know how to brand themselves.
Chance is one of the best at doing this
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Post by tsk on Dec 24, 2016 14:05:53 GMT
The trend of pop taking over hip hop is going to swing back really soon
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Post by SugarHill on Dec 25, 2016 12:16:26 GMT
Malice was always a better rapper than pusha
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Post by bladefd on Jan 2, 2017 7:35:49 GMT
Rap is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too negative and filled with killing, raping, stealing, drugs, narcissism, literally 75% of rap songs have to do with negativity. Those sorts of rap songs don't inspire me. I don't mind them when I am in foul mood or just in certain mood where I don't mind negativity. If I want inspiration or to raise my mood towards positivity, I avoid most of rap like the plague.
There. My controversial music opinion concerning 75% of the entire rap genre.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 17:19:37 GMT
^ that's more of an uninformed opinion than an unpopular one. it's actually very popular among other people who don't listen to rap
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Post by bladefd on Jan 2, 2017 23:14:00 GMT
@rad Rap is majority (more than 65%) negativity. 100% true. Did you know most people listen for the beats and don't even read the lyrics of the rap songs they love?  , raps tend to have the best beats of maybe all the genres if you completely ignore the lyrics. I actually do check out the lyrics of songs. Most of the time, I still add the song, but it brings my mood down. I have to sometimes ignore the lyrics and listen just for the beat. I have rap songs from Dr Dre, eminem, kanye west, jay-z (not hardcore rap, more so his rock stuff), nas, flo rida, lupe fiasco, DMX, couple snoopdog songs, wiz khalifa.. lyrics are majority negativity.. not all though - probably around 65%-70%
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2017 23:51:44 GMT
how are kanye, jay and especially lupe negative? if u read lyrics and think that then u probably just don't understand what they're saying
but to be fair, this is the same guy who suggested "yeah" by usher as a podcast opening song. so it's safe to say u don't listen to much hip hop beyond what's played on the radio or what some if us post in here
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Jan 3, 2017 0:52:18 GMT
Rap today is probably more comedy and posturing than negativity
No, the bigger flaw for me is that it leaves less to the imagination/listener. But then again the record companies probably already do this focus group research shit that they sell more if they hold your hand and spoonfeed you. It's not something limited to just rap music
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Post by bladefd on Jan 3, 2017 0:59:21 GMT
how are kanye, jay and especially lupe negative? if u read lyrics and think that then u probably just don't understand what they're saying but to be fair, this is the same guy who suggested "yeah" by usher as a podcast opening song. so it's safe to say u don't listen to much hip hop beyond what's played on the radio or what some if us post in here 65-70% of rap songs are about negativity not 100% Kanye West songs I have are rock than rap -- heartless, amazing, love lockdown, stronger, power, monster -- from these songs, only monster would be negativity.. rest are fine I have 4 jay-z songs -empire state of mind, dirt off your shoulder, izzo, numb encore with linkin park.... these are fine but not all 4 are even rap Lupe Fiasco songs I listen to that are dark... I have like 5 songs from him genius.com/Lupe-fiasco-put-you-on-game-lyrics -- a personal attack supposedly on lil wayne. Lots of negativity www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lupefiasco/lupethekiller.htmlP.S. I don't have any full albums from any singer of any genre. I pull out individual songs I like so that's why I don't have many songs from any one singer.
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 3, 2017 1:48:16 GMT
just like to say numb encore is one of the worst songs ever made
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 2:52:42 GMT
how are kanye, jay and especially lupe negative? if u read lyrics and think that then u probably just don't understand what they're saying but to be fair, this is the same guy who suggested "yeah" by usher as a podcast opening song. so it's safe to say u don't listen to much hip hop beyond what's played on the radio or what some if us post in here 65-70% of rap songs are about negativity not 100% Kanye West songs I have are rock than rap -- heartless, amazing, love lockdown, stronger, power, monster -- from these songs, only monster would be negativity.. rest are fine I have 4 jay-z songs -empire state of mind, dirt off your shoulder, izzo, numb encore with linkin park.... these are fine but not all 4 are even rap Lupe Fiasco songs I listen to that are dark... I have like 5 songs from him genius.com/Lupe-fiasco-put-you-on-game-lyrics -- a personal attack supposedly on lil wayne. Lots of negativity www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lupefiasco/lupethekiller.htmlP.S. I don't have any full albums from any singer of any genre. I pull out individual songs I like so that's why I don't have many songs from any one singer. did u read the annotations on genius for put u on game? how in the world could u draw that conclusion? same with lupe the killer nvm, i'm being bladed right now. should've known. well done
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Post by bladefd on Jan 3, 2017 6:51:36 GMT
You need help @rad.. You are way too quick to call someone a troll just because you disagree with them.
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Post by althornton on Jan 3, 2017 8:50:02 GMT
there's too much music
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 14:37:06 GMT
You need help @rad.. You are way too quick to call someone a troll just because you disagree with them. im not calling u a troll because u disagree. im calling u a troll because the conclusions u are drawing are so far below what i consider ur mental capacity to be that i hope ur trolling
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2017 14:39:27 GMT
i agree. but it seems like a lot of fans want music released more rapidly now. it's like u gotta do and album every 1-2 years with a bunch of side projects / mixtapes / features in between. with the internet giving u access to everything, it can make u can go through music so quickly now
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Post by Maniak on Jan 10, 2017 3:07:31 GMT
just like to say numb encore is one of the worst songs ever made man fuck outta here that album was important for the era
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Post by Maniak on Jan 10, 2017 3:24:17 GMT
toronto is the third hottest city behind atl and la
dave east does not have the talent to put together an album any longer than like 5 or 6 songs
from a non-financial standpoint, drake hurt futures career
songs like bad & boujee and black beatles being popular for their association with memes will not help the genre
political rap will continue to be insufferable and get worse once trump gets into office
artists need to make shorter projects
bigger artists need to start putting together mixtapes that dont feel like obvious throwaways and stop charging for "mixtapes"
tde will probably never again sign a talented artist
biggie and pac are more impactful for their names than any song/project they ever made (this more goes for biggie)
pusha t's next project will probably be bad and im sort of worried for good music with him as the president
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Post by althornton on Jan 10, 2017 3:57:48 GMT
from a non-financial standpoint, drake hurt futures career songs like bad & boujee and black beatles being popular for their association with memes will not help the genre can u expound on these
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Post by Maniak on Jan 10, 2017 4:10:11 GMT
from a non-financial standpoint, drake hurt futures career songs like bad & boujee and black beatles being popular for their association with memes will not help the genre can u expound on these i think drake and future are not cohesive artists and they just brought out the laziest in each other in terms of style drake has gotten lazier with his delivery on so many songs future just isnt impressing me very much anymore and meme rap is just sort of bad. i guess its good for the genre to gain more popularity but not really when a 4 minute song becomes important for 3-7 seconds of some line it doesnt encourage artists to make a good song, just a good line
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Post by althornton on Jan 10, 2017 4:55:22 GMT
i think drake and future are not cohesive artists and they just brought out the laziest in each other in terms of style drake has gotten lazier with his delivery on so many songs future just isnt impressing me very much anymore and meme rap is just sort of bad. i guess its good for the genre to gain more popularity but not really when a 4 minute song becomes important for 3-7 seconds of some line it doesnt encourage artists to make a good song, just a good line there isn't any drake influence in future's music though, i can understand growing tired of him but i don't see how ur connecting that to drake. even when they did that album together it was just a future album with drake verses on it
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 10, 2017 13:09:20 GMT
biggie and pac are more impactful for their names than any song/project they ever made (this more goes for biggie) Is this a funny way of saying his music is overrated?
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Post by Maniak on Jan 10, 2017 14:36:44 GMT
i think drake and future are not cohesive artists and they just brought out the laziest in each other in terms of style drake has gotten lazier with his delivery on so many songs future just isnt impressing me very much anymore and meme rap is just sort of bad. i guess its good for the genre to gain more popularity but not really when a 4 minute song becomes important for 3-7 seconds of some line it doesnt encourage artists to make a good song, just a good line there isn't any drake influence in future's music though, i can understand growing tired of him but i don't see how ur connecting that to drake. even when they did that album together it was just a future album with drake verses on it The correlation of them working together and his quality getting worse.
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Post by Maniak on Jan 10, 2017 14:41:56 GMT
biggie and pac are more impactful for their names than any song/project they ever made (this more goes for biggie) Is this a funny way of saying his music is overrated? I guess so? I just don't really think either have the great projects / runs like other rappers who are considered GOAT. Like each one only has a handful of good songs but they're considered some of the best to ever rap. I just sort of get lost as to where this GOAT level rapping is when I listen to one of their projects.
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Post by SugarHill on Jan 10, 2017 15:24:28 GMT
Is this a funny way of saying his music is overrated? I guess so? I just don't really think either have the great projects / runs like other rappers who are considered GOAT. Like each one only has a handful of good songs but they're considered some of the best to ever rap. I just sort of get lost as to where this GOAT level rapping is when I listen to one of their projects. I figured maybe u were talking about how some current rappers thought they were overrated or couldn't name their songs. Personally I think ready to die and all eyez on me are classic albums that I still listen to especially the latter
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Post by althornton on Jan 10, 2017 21:53:49 GMT
there isn't any drake influence in future's music though, i can understand growing tired of him but i don't see how ur connecting that to drake. even when they did that album together it was just a future album with drake verses on it The correlation of them working together and his quality getting worse. how does that make sense though when they've been collaborating since 2011/2012
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2017 2:18:44 GMT
artists need to make shorter projects bigger artists need to start putting together mixtapes that dont feel like obvious throwaways and stop charging for "mixtapes" tde will probably never again sign a talented artist the first is interesting. i feel like the opposite is true for a lot of major releases (sans views which was way too long). it feels like everybody is making 13-14 song albums with most of them being in the 3-4 minute range. for example soul's new album is 16 tracks but each one is like 5-6 minutes with only like 2 of them being less than 5. i feel like that's more the exception than the norm now. could just be my own perception tho and disagree with the second for...reasons  lol
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