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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:21:57 GMT
That's probably why he won't release his tax forms from the last like 7 years. Probably doesn't give much to charities. Got something to hide. Hes probably just broke as hell. Apparently he never had a real job before he got into politics and all the assets he owns are actually his wife's.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:23:33 GMT
Post up some charity stats, I'm actually interested in the distribution for different sectors I had a professor talk about it at length a while ago. Idk if I can find them now. It wouldnt be the sort of thing you usually find in economic journals I often peruse.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:24:43 GMT
That's probably why he won't release his tax forms from the last like 7 years. Probably doesn't give much to charities. Got something to hide. Hes probably just broke as hell. Apparently he never had a real job before he got into politics and all the assets he owns are actually his wife's. Even then, his salary as a senator was like 200k/year. He SHOULD have money. I think his net worth is super low for someone who makes that much and he probably doesn't have many charitiable donations, so where's that money going to?
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:25:45 GMT
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:31:03 GMT
Hes probably just broke as hell. Apparently he never had a real job before he got into politics and all the assets he owns are actually his wife's. Even then, his salary as a senator was like 200k/year. He SHOULD have money. I think his net worth is super low for someone who makes that much and he probably doesn't have many charitiable donations, so where's that money going to? I dont think hes been a senator that long, and I doubt the salary of mayor was all that amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:34:47 GMT
Even then, his salary as a senator was like 200k/year. He SHOULD have money. I think his net worth is super low for someone who makes that much and he probably doesn't have many charitiable donations, so where's that money going to? I dont think hes been a senator that long, and I doubt the salary of mayor was all that amazing. He was in the House of Rep for 16 years before that and he's been a senator for like 9 years now.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:37:36 GMT
I dont think hes been a senator that long, and I doubt the salary of mayor was all that amazing. He was in the House of Rep for 16 years before that and he's been a senator for like 9 years now. Troo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:45:45 GMT
Members of Congress make at a minimum (leaders get more obviously but not significantly more) 174K.
I know at the state level you just have to sit for two terms and you get health insurance for life, some 401K stuff, etc. Granted you only make 30K a year (in TN) but you work 5-6 months out of the year and that's it. I really need to get into politics.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:47:36 GMT
Members of Congress make at a minimum (leaders get more obviously but not significantly more) 174K. I know at the state level you just have to sit for two terms and you get health insurance for life, some 401K stuff, etc. Granted you only make 30K a year (in TN) but you work 5-6 months out of the year and that's it. I really need to get into politics. You get that from working for the government for a few years though lol. My cousin can already use his pension and hes like 32 lol. Hes thinking about just going back to school with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:50:45 GMT
Members of Congress make at a minimum (leaders get more obviously but not significantly more) 174K. I know at the state level you just have to sit for two terms and you get health insurance for life, some 401K stuff, etc. Granted you only make 30K a year (in TN) but you work 5-6 months out of the year and that's it. I really need to get into politics. You get that from working for the government for a few years though lol. My cousin can already use his pension and hes like 32 lol. Hes thinking about just going back to school with it. Yeah but government jobs are hard to get. Political ones really aren't that hard to get on the state level as long as you can get some kind of funding/know people in the community. Like some guy I went to high school with almost unseated a guy that's been a state rep for a decade or so right after he turned 25 (old enough to run) just based solely on how many people he knows
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 18:53:04 GMT
You get that from working for the government for a few years though lol. My cousin can already use his pension and hes like 32 lol. Hes thinking about just going back to school with it. Yeah but government jobs are hard to get. Political ones really aren't that hard to get on the state level as long as you can get some kind of funding/know people in the community. Like some guy I went to high school with almost unseated a guy that's been a state rep for a decade or so right after he turned 25 (old enough to run) just based solely on how many people he knows I should become a state rep!
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 3, 2016 18:56:16 GMT
You get that from working for the government for a few years though lol. My cousin can already use his pension and hes like 32 lol. Hes thinking about just going back to school with it. Yeah but government jobs are hard to get. Political ones really aren't that hard to get on the state level as long as you can get some kind of funding/know people in the community. Like some guy I went to high school with almost unseated a guy that's been a state rep for a decade or so right after he turned 25 (old enough to run) just based solely on how many people he knows Idk. My cousin did graduate top of his class, but no one else would hire him and hes just a 911 operator lol. I do kind of want to do politics later in lfe though. I already told you that. Id rather make some real $$$ first.
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Post by fpliii on Apr 3, 2016 19:27:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 20:19:23 GMT
Gonna re download it and give it a go again. Remember being awesome at it.
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Post by ProfessorMurder on Apr 3, 2016 21:16:35 GMT
It disgusts you that he made a statement 35 years ago where he didn't shit on helping people, but instead thought people should be helped via an alternate mean? What a fucking prick! Its disgusting that he somehow convinced himself that forceful redistribution is a more morally sound system than willingly helping people. It takes huge distortions of logic for it to make any sense.You mean like you're doing? He said nothing about it being more morally sound, unless there's more than what was in your picture. 1. There's a lot of corruption in charities like TSK said. 2. There's nothing wrong with the idea of changing the system to be more charitable. 3. Making government more charitable and elimimating money grubbing charities would change people's perspectives on charity. Charity isn't a dirty word, but the idea of 'giving if you can afford it' is very different than if 'giving was built into government and everybody helps automatically' with taxes mindset. People would go from 'I can't afford to help' to 'Boy I hate tax season but at least it's feeding homeless people'. There is nothing wrong with what he said. He still wants people to get help and help each other, it's just semantics. He just thought pivoting the issue is the better way to go... and again, that was 35 years ago. He has every right to question charities and the structures of giving. The idea of charity does have a weight to it which is why you're reacting like a butt.
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Post by ProfessorMurder on Apr 3, 2016 21:22:32 GMT
I really just don't understand how you can be reacting so negatively to that.
'Let's help people, but in a different way.'
That's all he said.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 4, 2016 4:37:36 GMT
He said nothing about it being more morally sound, unless there's more than what was in your picture. You're right that he didn't make it clear that his problem with charity was on moral grounds, but there is no logical defense to his statement no matter what the thought process is behind it. and government, and beyond that, charities are far more efficient with their money on the whole than the government is and are more accountable. I don't know what you mean by "the system" but if you are trying to say there is nothing wrong with forceful redistribution, then you are incorrect. I don't even know what point you're really trying to make. If you think people would just love to give up their money based on some ideal of "helping" that is forced on them, you only need to look at thousands of years of human history to see otherwise. I don't care that he still wants to help people. That's not the problem. You have a very basic misunderstanding of what my problem with this is. No, he said "I don't like charity." but he is more than fine with forceful redistribution. So in other words, giving out of your own free will is something he is against, but he is obscenely in love with the idea of forcing other people to give away their money.
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Post by bladefd on Apr 4, 2016 6:14:19 GMT
Can you legislate greed through taxes? If someone makes millions each year and puts nothing in charity, do you have a right to legislate taxes so some of that money goes to help the less fortunate?
It is very much a moral question.
I would say the problem with our massive bureaucratic system is that there is no guarantee that the money will end up with the right cause rather than the pockets of rich corrupt politicians. It is more of an issue about money/resource allotment rather than the taxes themselves.
Ancient Greece/Rome had the same issue towards their demise - it became too large of a bureaucracy to govern & for the tax money to reach the right causes and needs. Of course, the corrupt politicians/emperors didn't help the situation one bit and the empire became split. United States is heading towards a very similar situation if it continues until we drive right off the cliff like the great Roman Empire.
If there is anything to learn from Rome, it is that too large bureaucracy will have a great chance of failure. Some of the greatest emperors like Augustus Caesar tried to stop the fall, and succeeded temporarily but Rome was too far gone towards the cliff to return to stable greatness.
We need a drastic change before it is too late. That means Hillary/Cruz are not the solution. Someone out of control like Trump is not the solution either. If only Bernie were to understand that you don't need HUUUUUUGE government to reel the nation in. I agree with his idea of improving the infrastructure, more focus on education, single-payer healthcare system.. but we don't necessarily need to make the government bigger.. just need more efficiency, less corruption, and government willing to listen to its constituents.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 11:58:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 12:31:39 GMT
Bernie's ridiculous uphill climb is getting less steep after his recent string of victories. Went from 58% of remaining delegates needed to around 53%. Way outperformed his Wisconsin polls where he was usually a 3-5% favorite (margin of error basically) and won by 13%. Big test coming up is New York, but every time he grabs momentum Hillary takes a state he should win, or really outperforms him. Nevada (which actually may flip to Sanders next month ), then winning Florida after Bernie's unimaginable Michigan victory, and the stunning Arizona win for her, which like Nevada she may ultimately wind up losing. She's favored on average by 11% and although the number is down from 25 from a few weeks ago it's still not good enough. He's polling well in the following biggest prize of New York behind in a Quinnipiac poll by 7%, but if he loses New York by any sizable margin it's over anyway. Cutting her lead from 377ish to 210ish is impressive, but with 247 delegates up for grabs it won't matter if he loses the state by any big margin. The Post published a piece that the Hillary democrats are worried the black voters are going to assume she's going to win, so they won't vote which might swing the state in his favor. CNN's opinion piece about the complicated relationship she has with the state's voters is a nice slanted read. And of course there's the New York Daily News article that may or may not get big time coverage depending on how much of the news is about Bernie's blowout last night.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 16:12:59 GMT
I wish people realized that Kasich is the only "republican" worth a damn
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 16:15:39 GMT
I don't even care if Bernie wins, I just want him to make it a close race so a majority of people can understand that we aren't doomed to voting for the favorite every damn year.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 7, 2016 1:05:11 GMT
I wish people realized that Kasich is the only "republican" worth a damn Kasich isnt particularly great. Not sure I even like him over Cruz tbh. Ill take him over trump or Sanders but hes just so...mediocre. I cant see him as a president in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 1:06:55 GMT
I wish people realized that Kasich is the only "republican" worth a damn Kasich isnt particularly great. Not sure I even like him over Cruz tbh. Ill take him over trump or Sanders but hes just so...mediocre. I cant see him as a president in any way. Taking Cruz over him says about all I've expected out of you
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 7, 2016 1:10:20 GMT
Not "Him" I saw your comment on r/nba and then looked at your posts about Sanders. You should really give up. You're not going to reach anyone on reddit py pointing out Bernie's lunacy when so many of them feel the same way. They dont realize stealing peoples wealth only makes the world poorer by disincentivizing hard work. On an unrelated note it looks increasingly likely that Trump wont get enough delegates to be nominated, so I might actually get to vote for someone other than hillary, who has been increasingly annoying lately.
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 7, 2016 1:12:53 GMT
Kasich isnt particularly great. Not sure I even like him over Cruz tbh. Ill take him over trump or Sanders but hes just so...mediocre. I cant see him as a president in any way. Taking Cruz over him says about all I've expected out of you Thats not really a statement on the quality of cruz but on the lack of quality of Kasich. Its poop sandwich A vs poop sandwich B. I mean Kasich's policies are okay but he just lacks any sort of charisma, talent or noteworthy features. Its like the John Kerry of republicans. I feel like if he was president hed inevitably be bumbling around trying to cover his mistakes. A persons beliefs are important, but if he doesnt seem like he can do the job, who cares?
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Post by 寂しいマグナエクス on Apr 7, 2016 1:15:41 GMT
I watched a fox news interview with Kasich a week or two ago and when they asked him about the fact that its mathematically impossible to win, he turned into a petulant child. Thats not a guy I want as president.
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Post by bladefd on Apr 7, 2016 6:23:49 GMT
My gosh... www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/videos/1118138464909348/Does this lady have any dignity or is the only thing on her mind is scoring political points? She has the audacity to use the death of innocent children and emotions of their families for votes.. This makes me so angry. I used to think very highly of her but she is no better than Cruz or Trump... I seriously wish Elizabeth Warren or someone had run with Bernie as VP - Hillary makes me sick. I understand the parents of those kids are very upset. I was very much hurt that day so was much of America, but how could you blame the gun manufacturers for that? Maybe you can say the gun store who sold the guns to that guy should be shut out of business for negligence, but the manufacturers? How are they liable? What am I missing here? They didn't even sell the weapons to people. Somebody explain the logic to me..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:01:23 GMT
My gosh... www.facebook.com/hillaryclinton/videos/1118138464909348/Does this lady have any dignity or is the only thing on her mind is scoring political points? She has the audacity to use the death of innocent children and emotions of their families for votes.. This makes me so angry. I used to think very highly of her but she is no better than Cruz or Trump... I seriously wish Elizabeth Warren or someone had run with Bernie as VP - Hillary makes me sick. I understand the parents of those kids are very upset. I was very much hurt that day so was much of America, but how could you blame the gun manufacturers for that? Maybe you can say the gun store who sold the guns to that guy should be shut out of business for negligence, but the manufacturers? How are they liable? What am I missing here? They didn't even sell the weapons to people. Somebody explain the logic to me.. Well the logic I seem to catch is that car manufacturers are held accountable and also not as protected as the weapons industry. They have to have seat belts enviromental shit etc. But just as you I can't quite figure out why a weapon manufacturer should be held responsible for selling a product that did its job. Killing people. Either you go to the root of this which is limit gun rights or you are just trying to win easy points. Hilary is scum.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 7:04:24 GMT
hehe maybe in the future guns will have wifi or constant internet access or whatever and a print on the trigger. So every time you fired you'd know who did it.
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