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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 19:16:20 GMT
For a second I read that as Thanos was the best portrayal of a comic book character ever, not Thanos is the best comic book character ever and they portrayed him correctly.  I was like Boogie, do we need to have a talk?  Only talking about cinema portrayal of a comic character. The second best are the Ninja Turtles in the original movie (1989).
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 28, 2018 19:51:55 GMT
See, that's what I was expecting as well. Warlock. It makes more sense and you don't run into the sexism issues that you know is gonna pop up  Maybe Nebula and Tony find his cocoon or something on Titan? I feel like they've gotta bring him in, but it really doesn't seem like they're going to do it. In the end credits scene for Guardians, we see Warlock's cocoon is already hatched during the stupid Howard the Duck cameo. AND THERE HAS BEEN NO MENTION OF HIM AGAIN! For some reason I thought he was still in it.
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Post by SugarHill on Apr 28, 2018 20:22:26 GMT
Star-Lord being jealous of Thor Gamora growing to like Star-Lord more openly, and the I love you. Starlord was really good in this film with his comedy and so was Thor. It's funny how they played off the whole idea that he's basically just a shittier version of him. This was definitely my favorite Thor. Also this is the first movie where I really like Gamora. Her relationship with Thanos really brought out new dimension in her character while at the same time making Thanos better. It's funny how this movie with all the BS around and how packed it is had some of the better character development in the series.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 28, 2018 21:04:12 GMT
Star-Lord being jealous of Thor Gamora growing to like Star-Lord more openly, and the I love you. Starlord was really good in this film with his comedy and so was Thor. It's funny how they played off the whole idea that he's basically just a shittier version of him. This was definitely my favorite Thor. Also this is the first movie where I really like Gamora. Her relationship with Thanos really brought out new dimension in her character while at the same time making Thanos better. It's funny how this movie with all the BS around and how packed it is had some of the better character development in the series. Agreed that it has better character development than most of their movies. It's really impressive considering we really don't know Thanos the person before this. I mean we knew his goal but not what he wanted to do with with stones (unless you're a comic book reader). Yet I kind of felt like I knew Thanos, there's some stuff I'd change about Thor's stuff like speeding it up a bit to get more Thanos stuff. I'd rather have gotten an extra scene of how Thanos actually cared for Gamora unlike the other kids, rather than him holding the forge open, or the trip there and the discussion with Rocket about the plan though.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 28, 2018 21:25:44 GMT
Also if Thanos really wanted to win the fight on Titan he should have said Peter's Mom's name right? RIGHT? AMIRITE GUYS!?!?!?!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 8:07:26 GMT
Starlord is shit. He should be way more like the comic version. Guardians and thor are genuinely funny now not just snarky usual marvel but actual comedy which is good.
Thanos was done well better then ive ever seen him in comics and i liked he had motivations that made sense and made sense when he would leave avengers alive. He still had a couple scenes where the cgi was shit and he had me expecting a press x to dodge cut scene pop up though
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Post by Heisenberg on Apr 29, 2018 10:36:38 GMT
I thought the film was paced brilliantly, kept me hooked the whole way,
Starlord, Thor and Drax were easily the MVPs of this film, their storylines kept a good balance between action and comedy.
Thanos impressed me, they portrayed his internal battle very well, good combination of intimidating and emotional.
I’ve always hated the vision character, and I always will, he’s a massive tool.
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Post by SugarHill on Apr 29, 2018 14:12:55 GMT
I thought the film was paced brilliantly, kept me hooked the whole way, Starlord, Thor and Drax were easily the MVPs of this film, their storylines kept a good balance between action and comedy. Thanos impressed me, they portrayed his internal battle very well, good combination of intimidating and emotional. I’ve always hated the vision character, and I always will, he’s a massive tool. the visual of his corpse with the head caved was pretty dark lol
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 20:22:36 GMT
Vision better come back because without him we can't have a the visions movie which was one of the best and most interesting series marvel has put out in years
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 20:23:17 GMT
I thought the film was paced brilliantly, kept me hooked the whole way, Starlord, Thor and Drax were easily the MVPs of this film, their storylines kept a good balance between action and comedy. Thanos impressed me, they portrayed his internal battle very well, good combination of intimidating and emotional. I’ve always hated the vision character, and I always will, he’s a massive tool. the visual of his corpse with the head caved was pretty dark lol think your cinema was shit it was light at mine scene took place outside in the day time
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:17:31 GMT
so we basically already know next movie will be dr strange knew they had to 'die' from seeing the futures to kill thanos and iron man and cap will really die while getting help from captain marvel in defeating thanos and wong will use the time stone to bring everyone who vanished back but won't be able to bring cap and iron man back right? OutRosez SugarHill
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:19:35 GMT
so we basically already know next movie will be dr strange knew they had to 'die' from seeing the futures to kill thanos and iron man and cap will really die while getting help from captain marvel in defeating thanos and wong will use the time stone to bring everyone who vanished back but won't be able to bring cap and iron man back right? OutRosez SugarHill I have a different theory that I can share but it's related to the set photos we've seen from avengers 4 so I won't talk about it unless you're cool with that
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:22:02 GMT
so we basically already know next movie will be dr strange knew they had to 'die' from seeing the futures to kill thanos and iron man and cap will really die while getting help from captain marvel in defeating thanos and wong will use the time stone to bring everyone who vanished back but won't be able to bring cap and iron man back right? OutRosez SugarHill I have a different theory that I can share but it's related to the set photos we've seen from avengers 4 so I won't talk about it unless you're cool with that im cool with it, i might have already seen it on other sites anyway most of these early theories end up wrong anyway
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:24:21 GMT
also wonder if the mention of thanos killing everyone on xander will end up as part of nova's origin?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:25:23 GMT
also i hate how they handled knowhere in the entire mcu, knowhere in the comics is the shit. wheres' my cosmo?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:30:42 GMT
OutRosez was also thinking adam warlock could show in captain marvel but then that's set in the 90s and the teaser for him was after guardians of the galaxy which we assume took place in our normal time right
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:33:20 GMT
I have a different theory that I can share but it's related to the set photos we've seen from avengers 4 so I won't talk about it unless you're cool with that im cool with it, i might have already seen it on other sites anyway most of these early theories end up wrong anyway About your other post-yeah I think that's Nova's origin. I thought that when they brought it up. Anyway, from the set photos we know they go back to the battle of New York. So I'm pretty sure what we're gonna learn is that in order to save the future they have to go back in time. I'm pretty sure they're gonna wind up having to go into the quantum realm. I think that's why they mentioned Janet Van Dyne in the first Ant-Man and why she's in the second one. She's figured out how to escape from it, she just doesn't know how she did it maybe someone else pulled her out but she knows how to travel through it and survive in it. Then I think in Captain Marvel we're gonna find out that she's OP as shit and her abilities would let her travel through time with them and protect them from the negative effects of the quantum realm. So basically they're going back to beat Thanos then because they have no chance with only the people they have now. Then gather and use the stones to undo all the damage he did, and fix everything or almost everything. Gamora and Loki probably stay dead. But anyone who dies in the battle against Thanos at that point in time stays dead
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:35:13 GMT
OutRosez was also thinking adam warlock could show in captain marvel but then that's set in the 90s and the teaser for him was after guardians of the galaxy which we assume took place in our normal time right Had to, Quill is old. I think she brings Warlock with her to Earth probably. Like those two meeting is one post credits scene and the other is her recieving the page.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:38:00 GMT
im cool with it, i might have already seen it on other sites anyway most of these early theories end up wrong anyway About your other post-yeah I think that's Nova's origin. I thought that when they brought it up. Anyway, from the set photos we know they go back to the battle of New York. So I'm pretty sure what we're gonna learn is that in order to save the future they have to go back in time. I'm pretty sure they're gonna wind up having to go into the quantum realm. I think that's why they mentioned Janet Van Dyne in the first Ant-Man and why she's in the second one. She's figured out how to escape from it, she just doesn't know how she did it maybe someone else pulled her out but she knows how to travel through it and survive in it. Then I think in Captain Marvel we're gonna find out that she's OP as shit and her abilities would let her travel through time with them and protect them from the negative effects of the quantum realm. So basically they're going back to beat Thanos then because they have no chance with only the people they have now. Then gather and use the stones to undo all the damage he did, and fix everything or almost everything. Gamora and Loki probably stay dead. But anyone who dies in the battle against Thanos at that point in time stays dead Gamora's actress already said in interview she will be back so i think she comes back. That makes a bit of sense, by new york you mean the loki invasion yeah? That would make sense too because they kept really beating it in to our heads that thanos was responsible for that over and over in the movie so makes sense they'd go back to that point. It'd be cool if we saw future versions of people fighting with past versions, like 2 hulks and shit.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:43:29 GMT
About your other post-yeah I think that's Nova's origin. I thought that when they brought it up. Anyway, from the set photos we know they go back to the battle of New York. So I'm pretty sure what we're gonna learn is that in order to save the future they have to go back in time. I'm pretty sure they're gonna wind up having to go into the quantum realm. I think that's why they mentioned Janet Van Dyne in the first Ant-Man and why she's in the second one. She's figured out how to escape from it, she just doesn't know how she did it maybe someone else pulled her out but she knows how to travel through it and survive in it. Then I think in Captain Marvel we're gonna find out that she's OP as shit and her abilities would let her travel through time with them and protect them from the negative effects of the quantum realm. So basically they're going back to beat Thanos then because they have no chance with only the people they have now. Then gather and use the stones to undo all the damage he did, and fix everything or almost everything. Gamora and Loki probably stay dead. But anyone who dies in the battle against Thanos at that point in time stays dead Gamora's actress already said in interview she will be back so i think she comes back. That makes a bit of sense, by new york you mean the loki invasion yeah? That would make sense too because they kept really beating it in to our heads that thanos was responsible for that over and over in the movie so makes sense they'd go back to that point. It'd be cool if we saw future versions of people fighting with past versions, like 2 hulks and shit. I think she'll be back for like visions and shit, not a major thing. More of what we saw in IW probably, just not kid age. A bit older like when she started rebel and leave Thanos. Yeah Loki invasion. Well we definitely saw an older Tony and the people were in their original Avengers costumes mostly. Plus Ant-Man was on set.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:43:43 GMT
OutRosez i also wonder if quasar or moondragon will be in captain marvel. probably no moondragon because she was with the other captain marvel though.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:44:24 GMT
Gamora's actress already said in interview she will be back so i think she comes back. That makes a bit of sense, by new york you mean the loki invasion yeah? That would make sense too because they kept really beating it in to our heads that thanos was responsible for that over and over in the movie so makes sense they'd go back to that point. It'd be cool if we saw future versions of people fighting with past versions, like 2 hulks and shit. I think she'll be back for like visions and shit, not a major thing. More of what we saw in IW probably, just not kid age. A bit older like when she started rebel and leave Thanos. Yeah Loki invasion. Well we definitely saw an older Tony and the people were in their original Avengers costumes mostly. Plus Ant-Man was on set. were those photos from captain marvel or the next infinity war though?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:45:35 GMT
they should have cast danerys from GOT as phyla-vell in captain marvel and had her fucking moondragon
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 22:47:33 GMT
also another possibility is we could see dr strange as the one going back in time in an astral form or something, the way he gave up the stone for stark and then was fine vanishing clearly shows he did something to put things in place for thanos's defeat. i think in the comic version (which i haven't read) he went back in time to bring everyone back
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:51:41 GMT
I think she'll be back for like visions and shit, not a major thing. More of what we saw in IW probably, just not kid age. A bit older like when she started rebel and leave Thanos. Yeah Loki invasion. Well we definitely saw an older Tony and the people were in their original Avengers costumes mostly. Plus Ant-Man was on set. were those photos from captain marvel or the next infinity war though? Next Avengers here ya go that's the video where all the pics originate from. There's higher quality ones from around the web, I just didn't have as easy access to them as I did this video (which I got from another site). The deadpool one is obviously fake. AFAIK everything with Captain Marvel has been filmed in a warehouse and not publicly so we don't know how much she's in it, only that she's in it given how people have talked about Brie Larson's interactions with other people.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 22:52:29 GMT
also another possibility is we could see dr strange as the one going back in time in an astral form or something, the way he gave up the stone for stark and then was fine vanishing clearly shows he did something to put things in place for thanos's defeat. i think in the comic version (which i haven't read) he went back in time to bring everyone back I think we're gonna find out the one possibility of them winning was if he gave up the stone to let him win only for them to beat him in the past and then undo everything.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2018 23:05:18 GMT
were those photos from captain marvel or the next infinity war though? Next Avengers here ya go that's the video where all the pics originate from. There's higher quality ones from around the web, I just didn't have as easy access to them as I did this video (which I got from another site). The deadpool one is obviously fake. AFAIK everything with Captain Marvel has been filmed in a warehouse and not publicly so we don't know how much she's in it, only that she's in it given how people have talked about Brie Larson's interactions with other people. that looks like young cap with old iron man ant man and some hulk (cgi who knows). wonder if cap dies before making it back to the past so they work with young past cap.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 29, 2018 23:15:37 GMT
Next Avengers here ya go that's the video where all the pics originate from. There's higher quality ones from around the web, I just didn't have as easy access to them as I did this video (which I got from another site). The deadpool one is obviously fake. AFAIK everything with Captain Marvel has been filmed in a warehouse and not publicly so we don't know how much she's in it, only that she's in it given how people have talked about Brie Larson's interactions with other people. that looks like young cap with old iron man ant man and some hulk (cgi who knows). wonder if cap dies before making it back to the past so they work with young past cap. Idk maybe, or maybe he stays behind to help them deal with issues in the current time, but at the very least we know there's some time travel in it.
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Post by bladefd on May 1, 2018 2:32:46 GMT
I went to watch the Avengers yesterday, and all I can say is “Wow!” About damn time we saw an Avengers movie that wasn't smash and bash brainless compilation of half-assed plot thrown together by a bored 13yr old teenager flipping through his big brother's comic book collection. I was impressed by this marvelous piece of film. The God wannabe..The first thing I want to discuss is the elephant in the room: Thanos. Before entering the theater, I was worried about the depiction of Thanos, and I was not a fan of Thanos' face, which I felt was not fierce enough to properly do justice to Thanos. The last thing I wanted was to be underwhelmed and disappointed by Thanos after a 7-8 yr buildup . After watching the film, I do think they tuned down his blood thirsty menacing nature a bit, but they fleshed him out as more complex figure than in the comics. Traditionally, he is not depicted in the comics as a complete batshit crazy raving lunatic like say Joker or a raging out of control psychopath egomaniac like Dark Seid, who wanted to destroy all life for the thrill of savagery. He is pretty much depicted as a man in love and willing to do anything to converge with his love, who unfortunately happens to be Lady Death. In that quest, he loses himself in slaughtering planet after planet, hoping to impress Lady Death. It's essentially a vast courting ritual  In that journey, Thanos does not attempt to erase half of the population in the universe, but he tries to erase ALL life across the board. Hell, he came close to destroying the sun so he could finish off all life on Earth. The things we poor men have to do to impress the ladies. O the humanity! In the movie, we saw a vastly different Thanos with almost a conscience, a semblance of humanity (not human but humane) marred by insanity. He “only” wants to destroy half of the life in the universe rather than ALL. So we see he is less evil in the movie versus in the comics. It might also have to do with the fact that in the comics, he is in love with Lady Death so the more he kills, the closer he gets to his love, but that incentive is no longer there in the movies with Lady Death not present. You get a sense that his intentions for wiping out half the population in the universe are 'merely' misguided in a faulty flawed notion of his that a) the universe lacks enough resources to sustain out-of-control growth of life, and so b) it is somehow his job to play god, rather than that he wants to kill everyone for the sheer thrill of quenching his thirst for blood or an intrinsic hatred of life like Dark Seid/Brainiac. As far as 'a' is concerned, it is a reasonable perspective and realistic because you can't have life be like a runaway bacteria constantly growing, feasting infinitely at the cost of finite resources (Thanos's math is off though - universe is too massive to run out of resources but forget that point for a moment). The unreasonable part is 'b' where he thinks it is somehow his job to be the one to determine who lives and who dies. Overall, I was pleasantly surprised by the job they did on him - it's a different outlook from the comic book Thanos, but I have absolutely no issues with it. The initial issue I had with Thanos not looking menacing and fierce enough makes sense now with this version of Thanos. It fits perfectly because Lady Death angle is completely out of the picture here. If Lady Death angle was still in the movies then this Thanos we saw wouldn't work, but she isn't so this version of Thanos is perfect and is the version we need. As for the deaths.. Scarletwitch and Vision story was set almost like Romeo and Juliet. Awwww, the two lovers end up both dying after shedding tears and professing their love for one another  , but SAVE YOUR TEARS AND SAD GROANS, EMOTIONAL LOSERS IN THEATER!! We know she is not really dead. All of the people who became ashes are obviously coming back. For me, there was no shock at all whatsoever like other people in theater because I know Spiderman is signed up for couple more movies and so are the guardians of the galaxy. They are all returning except for probably Gamora, Loki, Vision, etc who were slaughtered by Thanos and his minions (RIP  ). What will happen is what happened in the comics except I don't like Adam Warlock out of the blue to save the day. Whoever it is will momentarily get control over the infinity stones, bring everyone who evaporated back (maybe use time stone?), and then destroy the infinity stones to conclude the infinity war. What happened in the comics and what will happen here?In the comics, Adam Warlock, Captain Mar-vell and Avengers together defeat Thanos when he attempts to destroy our sun. So Captain Mar-Vell was key in stopping Thanos alongside Warlock and Avengers. Mar-vell is being introduced alongside Captain Marvel and we have the surviving Avengers. That's the whole puzzle. marvel.com/universe/Warlock,_Adam As we know, Mar-vell and female Captain Marvel aka Carol Danvers are going to have their own movie together 2 months before Avengers 4 (Mar-vell played by Jude Law, who trains Captain Marvel aka Carol Danvers played by Brie Larson) so we will have the whole back story on her and setup for her appearance. I believe Ant Man is going to take the role of Warlock, but we won't see the whole 'soulworld' because we have not been introduced to that in the movies. There's a good possibility we will see soulworld replaced by quantum realm like Rosez said. I do need to know more about this quantum realm and whether it can be the same thing as 'soulworld' but under different name.  As for Adam Warlock.. I am not sure I like the idea of an Adam Warlock introduced out of the blue (  , there was the cocoon in a previous GOG movie but we have not been formally introduced to him). There has been nothing beyond that cocoon - do we even know 100% that was Adam Warlock? I hate the idea of them just randomly introducing him at beginning of Avengers 4 and have him dismantle Thanos out of the left field. He also dies in the comics so do I like the idea of this new OP character being introduced out of the left field only to die thereafter? And there is also already Captain Marvel coming out of the left field, now add Warlock on there too? It's a bit worrisome to say the least. So anyways, watch Ant Man 2 and Captain Marvel for all of the answers! Those 2 movies will ultimately be the key to cracking the lock of Avengers 4. I really hope Adam Warlock is formally introduced in one of those 2 movies because seeing him introduced at the beginning of Avengers 4 will make me a bit mad to see him brought in out of the left field. Time-travel?Surviving Avengers/other heroes are Captain america, Ironman, Thor, Black widow, Hulk, Warmachine, Rocket & Nebula from gog, Okoye and M'baku from Wakanda, Hawkeye. With Ant man and Captain Marvel+Captain Mar-vell coming into the mix. Considering that, do we really need timetravel?? Time-travel almost usually leads to holes in the plot so my belief is to not go there. It's way too easy to end up with loopholes and temporal paradoxes. Technical breakdown..Acting was pretty good. Directing was solid considering how jam-packed the fight scenes were (WOEH, I was extremely entertained!). Cinematography, cgi and fight scenes were MARVELous (get it? Marvel and marvelous. LOL!!). Great pacing, great job building up 5 separate bilateral storylines being played out simultaneously. My rating? One thing you should know about me is I'm very strict when it comes to rating movies. I don't let anything off the hook. I am picky and scathing if I see blatant mistakes or irrational brainless plot holes. I rarely give out 8s, and I do not give out 9s except in certain cases. I am just as picky about comic book movies because even though my expectations are low to begin with, I can't let them off the hook. And every comic book movie I watch, I put up to the test with Dark Knight/Dark Knight rises as the gold standard. Considering all that, this movie gets a 9/10. We might have a new gold standard in Infinity Wars but not until I watch this a 2nd time and definitely not until I watch part 2 of Infinity Wars. If the 2nd part is low quality and brainless half-assed compilation thrown together, all bets are off. P.S. DC, WERE YOU WATCHING? You see what Marvel, Disney, etc did here in infinity war? LEARN FROM IT AND FIGURE IT OUT IN YOUR DC UNIVERSE. Copy the style, emulate it, DO SOMETHING. Please. I beg you. Don't fucking ruin the Justice League, which I grew up inspired by and cherishing. DON'T RUIN IT, DC. LEARN from Marvel.
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Post by bladefd on May 1, 2018 2:36:34 GMT
^ Blame the Sixers for that long post.. Goddamn fools stunk up the joint, forcing me to type that long post because I couldn't watch that shit game..
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