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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 0:15:00 GMT
There are no new conditions though. I said Jon won't bend his knee. Then after episode 6 leaks, you say the condition was never physically bending his knee but metaphorically. So you already changed conditions after the fact. I'm still saying that Jon refuses to bend his knee to anyone as a broad statement (including both physically bending knee and metaphorically bending knee). You are completely disregarding the part where Jon said "I won't bend the knee....." (1hr 3m mark, ep 6). I have the exact moment and you are saying "Oh, it's not physically bending his knee", but I'm not even concerned about physically or metaphorically. Did Jon did or didn't say "I won't bend the knee....."?  or no will do, ballybaby. ^_^ You even got the quote wrong    But......[I'm on a bed and I physically can't get up right now] Bending the knee means to submit yourself to the rule of another entity. Jon does exactly that by calling Dany his queen. This specific referenced moment is a typical American entertainment cliche of "I'd do something for you, but my body won't let me". Go rewatch the episode with subtitles and stop grasping at straws. If that's true, then I'm wrong. I apologize for quoting something incorrectly. They are still gonna smash soon as I said long time ago, and it will all be irrelevant. ;) You even got the quote wrong But......[I'm on a bed and I physically can't get up right now] Bending the knee means to submit yourself to the rule of another entity. Jon does exactly that by calling Dany his queen. This specific referenced moment is a typical American entertainment cliche of "I'd do something for you, but my body won't let me". Go rewatch the episode with subtitles and stop grasping at straws. Yeah I don't understand bladefd argument here he clearly bends the knee for Danny. She is his queen. So you agree or disagree with Graviton?  |
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 18, 2017 0:16:58 GMT
You even got the quote wrong But......[I'm on a bed and I physically can't get up right now] Bending the knee means to submit yourself to the rule of another entity. Jon does exactly that by calling Dany his queen. This specific referenced moment is a typical American entertainment cliche of "I'd do something for you, but my body won't let me". Go rewatch the episode with subtitles and stop grasping at straws. If that's true, then I'm wrong. I apologize for quoting something incorrectly. They are still gonna smash soon as I said long time ago, and it will all be irrelevant. ;) Yeah I don't understand bladefd argument here he clearly bends the knee for Danny. She is his queen. So you agree or disagree with Graviton? I love the aspect of discussion, I love when different theories and aspects come along. That being said, it's obvious Jon Snow was bending the knee at the end ep. 6. |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 0:22:48 GMT
ballup Graviton bladefd Let's say he doesn't actually bend the knee physically or metaphorically. Than what's the point of the Jon and Tormund talk, were Tormund told him paraphrasing here, " you've been hanging around the free folk for too long. Mance's pride didn't bend his knee, and how many wildlings lives were lost for it." Come on guys *cough bladefd cough* I expect better! If they smash+marry, it all becomes irrelevant. I don't think Mance was going to marry a man king to the south of the wall to circumvent the issue of who is above who on social hierarchy so it's very different circumstances. Anyways, Dany is ice cold with everyone else but not Jon. There is clearly something there (i.e. love ;) ). |
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 18, 2017 0:24:48 GMT
ballup Graviton bladefd Let's say he doesn't actually bend the knee physically or metaphorically. Than what's the point of the Jon and Tormund talk, were Tormund told him paraphrasing here, " you've been hanging around the free folk for too long. Mance's pride didn't bend his knee, and how many wildlings lives were lost for it." Come on guys *cough bladefd cough* I expect better! If they smash+marry, it all becomes irrelevant. I don't think Mance was going to marry a man king to the south of the wall to circumvent the issue of who is above who on social hierarchy so it's very different circumstances. Anyways, Dany is ice cold with everyone else but not Jon. There is clearly something there (i.e. love ;) ). Jon proposal to Danny has nothing to do with bending the knee. It's about a mans pride and the weak perception he might be labeled as from his banner men or allies. |
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Post by ballup on Aug 18, 2017 0:29:44 GMT
You even got the quote wrong But......[I'm on a bed and I physically can't get up right now] Bending the knee means to submit yourself to the rule of another entity. Jon does exactly that by calling Dany his queen. This specific referenced moment is a typical American entertainment cliche of "I'd do something for you, but my body won't let me". Go rewatch the episode with subtitles and stop grasping at straws. If that's true, then I'm wrong. I apologize for quoting something incorrectly. They are still gonna smash soon as I said long time ago, and it will all be irrelevant. ;) Yeah I don't understand bladefd argument here he clearly bends the knee for Danny. She is his queen. So you agree or disagree with Graviton? And to me, it doesn't matter if Dany gets the Lord's kiss, she dead by the end of the show. |
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Post by Graviton on Aug 18, 2017 0:59:22 GMT
Let's say he doesn't actually bend the knee physically or metaphorically. Than what's the point of the Jon and Tormund talk, were Tormund told him paraphrasing here, " you've been hanging around the free folk for too long. Mance's pride made him not bend his knee, and how many wildlings lives were lost for it?" The whole point of it was acceptance. You can't bend the knee to a stranger, but after everything Jon saw, as he said "they will see you for what you really are". He accepted her as his queen, and she accepted her feelings for him. The last couple episodes was just them dancing around, trying to act like there is nothing going on. But the talk with Tyrion about "this Jon Snow", Jon's talk with Davos. All those glances Dany throws at him, the final one being on the boat when she sees his scars. Then "I can't have any children" line. Just listen to her voice in her last 3 lines, no dragon queen to be found, just a soft spoken girl in love. |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 6:10:22 GMT
If that's true, then I'm wrong. I apologize for quoting something incorrectly. They are still gonna smash soon as I said long time ago, and it will all be irrelevant. ;) So you agree or disagree with Graviton? And to me, it doesn't matter if Dany gets the Lord's kiss, she dead by the end of the show. Now do we get to discuss the elephant in the room where all this bending of the knee discussion started? Where I said jon/dany will fall in love and you laughed at me? She's not marrying Jon. This may be a fantasy story, but not one with typical fantasy plots Well then one would have to bend the knee to another and that sure isn't happening. Either they will rule together or 1 of them will die. The title of series is "A song of fire and Ice" not just fire or ice. Fire refers to Targaryens aka Dany whereas ice refers to Stark aka Jon. (Sansa has always been a supporting character rather than prime focus, and Arya is not into politics. So ice has to focus on Jon). Jon already died, and I can't see him dying again as he will be the guy to fight/kill the whitewalker king based on the signs we have seen thus far. Maybe he dies while killing the whitewalker king, I won't discard that. I can't see Dany dying since she is the last Targaryen member - imagine her coming all the way to Westeros over 7 seasons only to end up dying and ending the Targaryen family line. That would truly be a tragedy of Greek proportions. That was where it all started over the question of Dany/Jon smashing as couple. And I think we have our answer or will soon enough. I will take the L for the bending knee part, but we know who takes the L for the overall umbrella discussion that started it all =] |
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Post by ballup on Aug 18, 2017 13:18:42 GMT
And to me, it doesn't matter if Dany gets the Lord's kiss, she dead by the end of the show. Now do we get to discuss the elephant in the room where all this bending of the knee discussion started? Where I said jon/dany will fall in love and you laughed at me? Well then one would have to bend the knee to another and that sure isn't happening. Either they will rule together or 1 of them will die. The title of series is "A song of fire and Ice" not just fire or ice. Fire refers to Targaryens aka Dany whereas ice refers to Stark aka Jon. (Sansa has always been a supporting character rather than prime focus, and Arya is not into politics. So ice has to focus on Jon). Jon already died, and I can't see him dying again as he will be the guy to fight/kill the whitewalker king based on the signs we have seen thus far. Maybe he dies while killing the whitewalker king, I won't discard that. I can't see Dany dying since she is the last Targaryen member - imagine her coming all the way to Westeros over 7 seasons only to end up dying and ending the Targaryen family line. That would truly be a tragedy of Greek proportions. That was where it all started over the question of Dany/Jon smashing as couple. And I think we have our answer or will soon enough. I will take the L for the bending knee part, but we know who takes the L for the overall umbrella discussion that started it all =] Sexy times doesn't need marriage beforehand. If they wanted to get married, it'd be after the war but Dany dies to save the Realm. Jon possibly does too, but I'm kinda leaning against it. That's why they won't get married. It's funny you think the writers wouldn't go that route because of ending family lines. Many family lines ended during the show including the Tyrells, Martels, Freys, Bolton, and Lannister is almost at its brink. |
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 18, 2017 14:28:04 GMT
Now do we get to discuss the elephant in the room where all this bending of the knee discussion started? Where I said jon/dany will fall in love and you laughed at me? That was where it all started over the question of Dany/Jon smashing as couple. And I think we have our answer or will soon enough. I will take the L for the bending knee part, but we know who takes the L for the overall umbrella discussion that started it all =] Sexy times doesn't need marriage beforehand. If they wanted to get married, it'd be after the war but Dany dies to save the Realm. Jon possibly does too, but I'm kinda leaning against it. That's why they won't get married. It's funny you think the writers wouldn't go that route because of ending family lines. Many family lines ended during the show including the Tyrells, Martels, Freys, Bolton, and Lannister is almost at its brink. Or they can be teasing that it's family bloodline that can help push Danny to have a child. Just a thought. |
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Post by ballup on Aug 18, 2017 16:15:50 GMT
Sexy times doesn't need marriage beforehand. If they wanted to get married, it'd be after the war but Dany dies to save the Realm. Jon possibly does too, but I'm kinda leaning against it. That's why they won't get married. It's funny you think the writers wouldn't go that route because of ending family lines. Many family lines ended during the show including the Tyrells, Martels, Freys, Bolton, and Lannister is almost at its brink. Or they can be teasing that it's family bloodline that can help push Danny to have a child. Just a thought. Not sure what you mean by this. Dany is infertile from that shawoman's curse iirc |
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 18, 2017 17:29:34 GMT
Or they can be teasing that it's family bloodline that can help push Danny to have a child. Just a thought. Not sure what you mean by this. Dany is infertile from that shawoman's curse iirc The way the show is glossing over things I won't be surprised if this happens. That's all I'm saying. |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 19:16:34 GMT
Now do we get to discuss the elephant in the room where all this bending of the knee discussion started? Where I said jon/dany will fall in love and you laughed at me? That was where it all started over the question of Dany/Jon smashing as couple. And I think we have our answer or will soon enough. I will take the L for the bending knee part, but we know who takes the L for the overall umbrella discussion that started it all =] Sexy times doesn't need marriage beforehand. If they wanted to get married, it'd be after the war but Dany dies to save the Realm. Jon possibly does too, but I'm kinda leaning against it. That's why they won't get married. It's funny you think the writers wouldn't go that route because of ending family lines. Many family lines ended during the show including the Tyrells, Martels, Freys, Bolton, and Lannister is almost at its brink. Ya, you read the season 8 potential leaks - I read them as well yesterday too. Thanks for posting them Tom Is Dead on ish. We still don't know if they are real or bs, but if that is what happens verbatim, fuck GOT.. Just complete BS ending to an awesome show.. |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 19:19:40 GMT
At this point, I refuse to take anyone's predictions seriously because they are no longer predictions when they are just reading the season 8 potential leaks verbatim. Legit predictions are over. (*cough cough* browntown *cough* ;) )
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Post by tsk on Aug 18, 2017 19:56:35 GMT
idk why you would read leaks for a tv show
that is silly aaf
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 20:01:20 GMT
idk why you would read leaks for a tv show that is silly aaf I refuse to believe that is what truly happens bc it is asinine tbh.. |
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Post by ballup on Aug 18, 2017 21:25:49 GMT
Sexy times doesn't need marriage beforehand. If they wanted to get married, it'd be after the war but Dany dies to save the Realm. Jon possibly does too, but I'm kinda leaning against it. That's why they won't get married. It's funny you think the writers wouldn't go that route because of ending family lines. Many family lines ended during the show including the Tyrells, Martels, Freys, Bolton, and Lannister is almost at its brink. Ya, you read the season 8 potential leaks - I read them as well yesterday too. Thanks for posting them Tom Is Dead on ish. We still don't know if they are real or bs, but if that is what happens verbatim, fuck GOT.. Just complete BS ending to an awesome show.. I didnt read nuthin |
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Post by Graviton on Aug 18, 2017 22:17:04 GMT
I don't think those leaks are real, no way both Jon and Dany die, maybe one of them. It will be a really shitty ending if that happens. Euron being the last boss is also completely idiotic, when did he become so important?
Season 8 scripts only just finished being written, production hasn't even started. Those leaks sound like trolling, they don't come from the same guys that leaked S6/S7. HBO is going to keep the last season on lockdown.
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Post by tsk on Aug 28, 2017 2:25:48 GMT
very erect
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Post by bladefd on Aug 28, 2017 6:24:43 GMT
Good episode. Wall came down just like I predicted and jon/dany unf unf'ing as bran says dany is his aunt  I am pissed Cersei didn't get cut down. That bitch doing exactly what I expected from her |
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Post by Graviton on Aug 28, 2017 6:35:23 GMT
Now we wait for 1.5 years.  |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 28, 2017 7:07:35 GMT
SPOILERS SPOILERS.. AVOID POST. -Well, that's the end of bending knee as it no longer matters. Jon is the rightful heir. Bending knee is only symbolic unless if jon decides to hide his birthright to stop any potential feuds starting. -sansa told littlefinger to fuck off ultimately. Good for here. I was fooled too by sansa/arya -looks like you guys were right about valonqor part taken out and I was wrong. Disappointed that Cersei didn't die by jaime..... Annoying bitch. -jon is pretty much the prince that was promised.. Aegon targaryen was the most powerful targaryen in history and jon is named that. That definitely is hint of things to come -wall came down in final scene as I foresaw  -the convo jon had with dany opens possibilities of dany having children |
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 28, 2017 7:09:58 GMT
Damn man bladefd can't even give me credit for Viserion dying and then being used by the night king to destroy the wall. Terrible! |
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Post by bladefd on Aug 28, 2017 7:13:44 GMT
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 28, 2017 7:18:25 GMT
I do not see it, so either your lying or take picture to show me.
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Aug 28, 2017 7:24:59 GMT
Ok so looking back I failed to mention that the night king will use Viserion to break the wall.
I did say and get right that Danny was gonna use 3 of her dragons to help rescue the magnificent seven.
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Post by bladefd on Aug 28, 2017 7:27:14 GMT
I do not see it, so either your lying or take picture to show me. I didn't predict a dragon would do it though. I didn't read the leaks until you posted about them, m8. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2017 9:14:07 GMT
So the iron kingdom is basically alabama now
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Post by ballup on Aug 28, 2017 12:37:52 GMT
They did my boy Tormund dirty even though I predicted his death
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Post by Lampz on Aug 28, 2017 13:41:43 GMT
incest is wincest
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Post by bladefd on Aug 28, 2017 20:32:19 GMT
I am honestly thinking Jon/Dany will never find out. When Sam and Bran realize Dany/Jon are sleeping together, they may decide to not say anything. Very good chance Dany gets pregnant from that night. It would be veeeeeery difficult at that point for Sam/Bran to say Dany is Jon's aunt if Dany is pregnant.. Howland Reed might know, but he is a non-factor & he would understand. Best to just let it go - only Sam and Bran even know from the entire world - rather than be the catalyst to creating friction between Jon/Dany. It's too late. Going to be some awkward comical conversations from Sam if they decide to hide it  |
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or no will do, ballybaby. ^_^
