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Post by bladefd on Aug 5, 2017 6:41:36 GMT
If you could choose any era in the past, present or future to spend a few years of your life in, which era would you choose?
You don't have to get specific to decade, century or millennium, but you could.
I personally wish I was born farther into the future. Maybe a couple thousand years ahead in time mainly because my lifelong dream is to explore the stars. I feel bound to land like a tiger bound within a glass cage for life. I wish for a day beyond the shackles of Earth that we are bound unto.
If humanity doesn't destroy itself, I believe we essentially have the power of the gods and to travel the stars. Only real limit is us.
I would also be lying if I didn't feel some deep intrinsic desire to experience the days of the Roman Republic. I wish to travel through the streets of perhaps the greatest nation the world has known with the largest control of the then known world. In the same era, I would also wish to check out ancient India to the East, China in the far east, the remains of the great Greek civilization, and the pre-Mayans in the far west. So that would date to approximately 300-250BC at the height of the Roman Republic. So much going on and truly fascinating period in human history!
What about you?
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Post by tsk on Aug 5, 2017 11:52:56 GMT
If you could choose any era in the past, present or future, which era are you made for? You don't have to get specific to decade, century or millennium, but you could. I personally wish I was born farther into the future. Maybe a couple thousand years ahead in time mainly because my lifelong dream is to explore the stars. I feel bound to land like a tiger bound within a glass cage for life. I wish for a day beyond the shackles of Earth that we are bound unto. If humanity doesn't destroy itself, I believe we essentially have the power of the gods and to travel the stars. Only real limit is us. I would also be lying if I didn't feel some deep intrinsic desire to experience the days of the Roman Republic. I wish to travel through the streets of perhaps the greatest nation the world has known with the largest control of the then known world. In the same era, I would also wish to check out ancient India to the East, China in the far east, the remains of the great Greek civilization, and the pre-Mayans in the far west. So that would date to approximately 300-250BC at the height of the Roman Republic. So much going on and truly fascinating period in human history! What about you? This is kind of a silly question. If anybody says an era before now they're lying to themselves. Technological advancement makes this question moot.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2017 17:37:14 GMT
Little bit into the future. When VR gaming is very good and virtual porn makes females obsolete.
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Aug 6, 2017 2:23:47 GMT
Hyperborea, Atlantis
Maybe Austria at its peak
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Post by bladefd on Aug 6, 2017 6:39:49 GMT
If you could choose any era in the past, present or future, which era are you made for? You don't have to get specific to decade, century or millennium, but you could. I personally wish I was born farther into the future. Maybe a couple thousand years ahead in time mainly because my lifelong dream is to explore the stars. I feel bound to land like a tiger bound within a glass cage for life. I wish for a day beyond the shackles of Earth that we are bound unto. If humanity doesn't destroy itself, I believe we essentially have the power of the gods and to travel the stars. Only real limit is us. I would also be lying if I didn't feel some deep intrinsic desire to experience the days of the Roman Republic. I wish to travel through the streets of perhaps the greatest nation the world has known with the largest control of the then known world. In the same era, I would also wish to check out ancient India to the East, China in the far east, the remains of the great Greek civilization, and the pre-Mayans in the far west. So that would date to approximately 300-250BC at the height of the Roman Republic. So much going on and truly fascinating period in human history! What about you? This is kind of a silly question. If anybody says an era before now they're lying to themselves. Technological advancement makes this question moot. Well, tbh technological innovations is just a small fraction of the equation. Technology isn't everything that defines humanity. Being in times past speaks more towards sentiments of experiencing first hand what we only know in writings and paintings. There is something to be said about being there and seeing it for yourself. There is an emotional link somewhere in there as well.
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Post by tsk on Aug 6, 2017 13:11:51 GMT
This is kind of a silly question. If anybody says an era before now they're lying to themselves. Technological advancement makes this question moot. Well, tbh technological innovations is just a small fraction of the equation. Technology isn't everything that defines humanity. Being in times past speaks more towards sentiments of experiencing first hand what we only know in writings and paintings. There is something to be said about being there and seeing it for yourself. There is an emotional link somewhere in there as well. Technological advancement is directly related to quality and ease of life. Saying anything other is romanticizing solely the best aspects of previous life and failing to acknowledge all the shit parts
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Post by bladefd on Aug 6, 2017 18:59:49 GMT
Well, tbh technological innovations is just a small fraction of the equation. Technology isn't everything that defines humanity. Being in times past speaks more towards sentiments of experiencing first hand what we only know in writings and paintings. There is something to be said about being there and seeing it for yourself. There is an emotional link somewhere in there as well. Technological advancement is directly related to quality and ease of life. Saying anything other is romanticizing solely the best aspects of previous life and failing to acknowledge all the shit parts While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. You are essentially looking down on the culture aspect. Culture has changed quite a bit since ancient civilizations - nothing wrong with someone wanting to experience the ancient cultures. Of course, if we look at it from technological and knowledge aspects, it would be a shit-hole. All ancient times would be shitholes along with even anything recent like say 20 years ago when 95% of people didn't even own a computer. But historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. If we go by your thinking though then no timeframe will suffice as technology always improves. Technology will always be better the more you go into the future.
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Post by tsk on Aug 6, 2017 19:02:01 GMT
Technological advancement is directly related to quality and ease of life. Saying anything other is romanticizing solely the best aspects of previous life and failing to acknowledge all the shit parts While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. You are essentially looking down on the culture aspect. Culture has changed quite a bit since ancient civilizations - nothing wrong with someone wanting to experience the ancient cultures. Of course, if we look art it from technological and knowledge aspect, it would be a shit-hole. All ancient times would be shitholes along with even anything recent like say 20 years ago when 95% of people didn't even own a computer. If we go by your thinking though then no timeframe will suffice as technology always improves. Technology will always be better the more you go into the future. That's my point, hence this being a silly question
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Post by bladefd on Aug 6, 2017 19:04:11 GMT
While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. You are essentially looking down on the culture aspect. Culture has changed quite a bit since ancient civilizations - nothing wrong with someone wanting to experience the ancient cultures. Of course, if we look art it from technological and knowledge aspect, it would be a shit-hole. All ancient times would be shitholes along with even anything recent like say 20 years ago when 95% of people didn't even own a computer. If we go by your thinking though then no timeframe will suffice as technology always improves. Technology will always be better the more you go into the future. That's my point, hence this being a silly question Historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. That was my point, which I edited in bit too late. I tend to edit my posts after re-reading them
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Post by tsk on Aug 6, 2017 19:05:45 GMT
That's my point, hence this being a silly question Historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. That was my point, which I edited in bit too late. I tend to edit my posts after re-reading them A better way of thinking would be which era would you most want to visit
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Aug 7, 2017 6:20:38 GMT
I would love to live during the WW2 era. Maybe not my entire life, but I'd love to experience that patriotism that people had back then with everyone contributing
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 0:00:17 GMT
Historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. That was my point, which I edited in bit too late. I tend to edit my posts after re-reading them A better way of thinking would be which era would you most want to visit this is how i think too. i'd love to see some of the ancient stuff but i really wouldn't want to live there. the averages persons life wasn't even as horrible as what most people assume in times like the middle ages and the like but they were still bad compared to now and you'd be a totally different person psyche wise
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 0:01:17 GMT
I'd like an invisible time machine that could just fly over events i wanted to see
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Post by Lampz on Aug 17, 2017 12:13:54 GMT
Technological advancement is directly related to quality and ease of life. Saying anything other is romanticizing solely the best aspects of previous life and failing to acknowledge all the shit parts While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. You are essentially looking down on the culture aspect. Culture has changed quite a bit since ancient civilizations - nothing wrong with someone wanting to experience the ancient cultures. Of course, if we look at it from technological and knowledge aspects, it would be a shit-hole. All ancient times would be shitholes along with even anything recent like say 20 years ago when 95% of people didn't even own a computer. But historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. If we go by your thinking though then no timeframe will suffice as technology always improves. Technology will always be better the more you go into the future. historians dont look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era" though
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Post by Lampz on Aug 17, 2017 12:16:38 GMT
I would love to live during the WW2 era. Maybe not my entire life, but I'd love to experience that patriotism that people had back then with everyone contributing i find that era captivating but i definitely wouldnt want to live there i wouldnt want to live in any past era
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 18:50:17 GMT
I would love to live during the WW2 era. Maybe not my entire life, but I'd love to experience that patriotism that people had back then with everyone contributing i find that era captivating but i definitely wouldnt want to live there i wouldnt want to live in any past era id fly over ww2 and ww1 in my invisible time machine. Battle of hastings too. Iver ancient egypt and find out who there's sea peopled really are. Over ireland during the potato famine for some lols. Over the aztecs and mayan civilizations. Over the assyrians and Babylonians. I wouldn't live in any
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Post by bladefd on Aug 17, 2017 20:29:21 GMT
While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. You are essentially looking down on the culture aspect. Culture has changed quite a bit since ancient civilizations - nothing wrong with someone wanting to experience the ancient cultures. Of course, if we look at it from technological and knowledge aspects, it would be a shit-hole. All ancient times would be shitholes along with even anything recent like say 20 years ago when 95% of people didn't even own a computer. But historians don't judge civilizations by how simply advanced their technology was but also by many other factors as well. If we go by your thinking though then no timeframe will suffice as technology always improves. Technology will always be better the more you go into the future. historians dont look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era" though That wasn't the point though. The only point I made was historians don't judge civilizations by their technology.  , technology matters but is simply a tiny portion of a civilization. That's it. I wasn't saying historians look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era". That's your point, m8, and not even something I would ever say concerning a historian (it's an entirely different argument as well from the one I had with tsk if you read through the points). So let's look at the statement in context. TSK actually completely disregarded the cultural aspect and looked completely at the technology aspect. I'm a technologist, if such a term exists, and I majored in the subject of technology and information. I'm still telling you technology is just 1 piece of civilization (crucial piece  ). While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. Culture, belief, thought process, language, tools (technological and non-technological), food/diet, behavior, physiology, etc are all things considered by historians and anthropologists in the study of a civilization (I was an evolutionary/biological anthropology minor as well). That was the whole argument and the point I made about historians to tsk. Since you brought up that point though, let us consider your point regardless. So what would a historian do.. A historian would wonder which eras most impacted humanity or a single civilization or idea/concept or that they would like to spend time in studying. Sure, if they are a true historian worth their soul, they would want to spend each year (or several years) of their lives in different time periods because there is no single time period in the history of humanity that was the single most important era. We can each argue different era as being the most significant, but such an argument would be fruitless. I don't want to speak for all historians, but I'm sure that if a historian was given a 1-way trip to any era in history, they would most likely choose to not stay in present era and choose to "transport" to the era they specialize in or are most fascinated by. Hope that response was sufficient to your statement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2017 23:24:00 GMT
historians dont look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era" though That wasn't the point though. The only point I made was historians don't judge civilizations by their technology.  , technology matters but is simply a tiny portion of a civilization. That's it. I wasn't saying historians look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era". That's your point, m8, and not even something I would ever say concerning a historian (it's an entirely different argument as well from the one I had with tsk if you read through the points). So let's look at the statement in context. TSK actually completely disregarded the cultural aspect and looked completely at the technology aspect. I'm a technologist, if such a term exists, and I majored in the subject of technology and information. I'm still telling you technology is just 1 piece of civilization (crucial piece  ). While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. Culture, belief, thought process, language, tools (technological and non-technological), food/diet, behavior, physiology, etc are all things considered by historians and anthropologists in the study of a civilization (I was an evolutionary/biological anthropology minor as well). That was the whole argument and the point I made about historians to tsk. Since you brought up that point though, let us consider your point regardless. So what would a historian do.. A historian would wonder which eras most impacted humanity or a single civilization or idea/concept or that they would like to spend time in studying. Sure, if they are a true historian worth their soul, they would want to spend each year (or several years) of their lives in different time periods because there is no single time period in the history of humanity that was the single most important era. We can each argue different era as being the most significant, but such an argument would be fruitless. I don't want to speak for all historians, but I'm sure that if a historian was given a 1-way trip to any era in history, they would most likely choose to not stay in present era and choose to "transport" to the era they specialize in or are most fascinated by. Hope that response was sufficient to your statement. question is about being born in another time though this historian is gonna be born in another time and grow up a totally different person, chances are in most time periods they'll grow up poor and never see anything beyond a farm\work site
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Post by bladefd on Aug 17, 2017 23:58:23 GMT
That wasn't the point though. The only point I made was historians don't judge civilizations by their technology.  , technology matters but is simply a tiny portion of a civilization. That's it. I wasn't saying historians look at past eras from the perspective of "would i like to have been born into this era". That's your point, m8, and not even something I would ever say concerning a historian (it's an entirely different argument as well from the one I had with tsk if you read through the points). So let's look at the statement in context. TSK actually completely disregarded the cultural aspect and looked completely at the technology aspect. I'm a technologist, if such a term exists, and I majored in the subject of technology and information. I'm still telling you technology is just 1 piece of civilization (crucial piece  ). While technology does matter and does make our lives easier, it is not everything. Culture, belief, thought process, language, tools (technological and non-technological), food/diet, behavior, physiology, etc are all things considered by historians and anthropologists in the study of a civilization (I was an evolutionary/biological anthropology minor as well). That was the whole argument and the point I made about historians to tsk. Since you brought up that point though, let us consider your point regardless. So what would a historian do.. A historian would wonder which eras most impacted humanity or a single civilization or idea/concept or that they would like to spend time in studying. Sure, if they are a true historian worth their soul, they would want to spend each year (or several years) of their lives in different time periods because there is no single time period in the history of humanity that was the single most important era. We can each argue different era as being the most significant, but such an argument would be fruitless. I don't want to speak for all historians, but I'm sure that if a historian was given a 1-way trip to any era in history, they would most likely choose to not stay in present era and choose to "transport" to the era they specialize in or are most fascinated by. Hope that response was sufficient to your statement. question is about being born in another time though this historian is gonna be born in another time and grow up a totally different person, chances are in most time periods they'll grow up poor and never see anything beyond a farm\work siteProbably  . If the 'being born' part is what is blowing up all of your minds, I will gladly rephrase it. Which era would you like to spend a few years of your life in? (2-3yrs) I will edit the topic too. Better now?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 0:04:04 GMT
question is about being born in another time though this historian is gonna be born in another time and grow up a totally different person, chances are in most time periods they'll grow up poor and never see anything beyond a farm\work siteProbably  . If the 'being born' part is what is blowing up all of your minds, I will gladly rephrase it. Which era would you like to spend a few years of your life in? (2-3yrs) I will edit the topic too. Better now? 2-3 years of a modern person thrown in another time fucks up too you are limited to modern times other wise you won't understand the language or the culture, even english languages aren't understandable to us now. you'd also probably introduce disease that will kill a lot of people or you'll catch extinct disease that you have no immunities against.
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Post by bladefd on Aug 18, 2017 5:59:16 GMT
Probably  . If the 'being born' part is what is blowing up all of your minds, I will gladly rephrase it. Which era would you like to spend a few years of your life in? (2-3yrs) I will edit the topic too. Better now? 2-3 years of a modern person thrown in another time fucks up too you are limited to modern times other wise you won't understand the language or the culture, even english languages aren't understandable to us now. you'd also probably introduce disease that will kill a lot of people or you'll catch extinct disease that you have no immunities against. If we are so worried about things like diseases then the entire fictional premise falls apart. An airborne disease can be obtained if you so much as have any contact with any human being or even if you are just flying by on your time machine breathing the air around you. But if you are so worried about this scenario being illogical or problematic, I will do you 1 better. Time travel is probably not possible. So before we even worry about diseases or not understanding language or what have you, time travel is not even possible. Why didn't you just start your first post in this thread saying "timetravel isn't possible so go fuck yourself, blade"? That would have saved you a lot of time in trying to find holes in trying to unhinge a discussion topic that wasn't even meant to be taken seriously but to simply have a fun discussion on what eras people look back or look forward at with admiration and why. This is why we cannot have any fun hypothetical discussions on bte ever.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2017 7:23:50 GMT
2-3 years of a modern person thrown in another time fucks up too you are limited to modern times other wise you won't understand the language or the culture, even english languages aren't understandable to us now. you'd also probably introduce disease that will kill a lot of people or you'll catch extinct disease that you have no immunities against. If we are so worried about things like diseases then the entire fictional premise falls apart. An airborne disease can be obtained if you so much as have any contact with any human being or even if you are just flying by on your time machine breathing the air around you. But if you are so worried about this scenario being illogical or problematic, I will do you 1 better. Time travel is probably not possible. So before we even worry about diseases or not understanding language or what have you, time travel is not even possible. Why didn't you just start your first post in this thread saying "timetravel isn't possible so go fuck yourself, blade"? That would have saved you a lot of time in trying to find holes in trying to unhinge a discussion topic that wasn't even meant to be taken seriously but to simply have a fun discussion on what eras people look back or look forward at with admiration and why. This is why we cannot have any fun hypothetical discussions on bte ever. an invisible flying sealed time machine so you can see events but dont interact like i said works
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