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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 13:27:03 GMT
100 - Joey Bosa (NR)
99 - Malcolm Butler (NR)
98 - Adrian Peterson (93)
97 - David Decastro (NR)
96 - Damon Harrison (NR)
95 - Kelechi Osemele (NR)
94 - Dont'a Hightower (NR)
93 - Brandon Graham (NR)
92 - Everson Griffin (NR)
91 - Lorenzo Alexander (NR)
90 - Malcolm Jenkins (NR)
89 - Thomas Davis (35)
88 - Doug Baldwin (16)
87 - Travis Frederick (NR)
86 - Jurrell Casey (NR)
85 - Chandler Jones (27)
84 - Mike Daniels (11)
83 - Calais Campbell (12)
82 - Clay Matthews (25)
81 - Alex Smith (0)
80 - LeGarrette Blount (NR)
79 - Sean Lee (NR)
78 - Brian Orakpo (NR)
77 - Ha Ha Clinton Dix (NR)
76 - Justin Houston (↓50)
75 - Delanie Walker (↑7)
74 - Harrison Smith (↓1)
73 - Phillip Rivers (↓27)
72 - Taylor Lewan (NR)
71 - Julian Edelman (↑16)
70 - Kirk Cousins (↑15)
69 - Jay Ajayi (NR)
68 -Geno Atkins (↓39)
67 - Greg Olsen (↓29)
66 - Xavier Rhodes (NR)
65 - Jordan Reed (↑12)
64 - Casey Hayward (NR)
63 - Chris Harris Jr. (↓11)
62 - Cameron Wake (NR)
61 - TY Hilton (NR
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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 13:27:36 GMT
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Post by Rondo on May 2, 2017 13:35:22 GMT
Inb4 Brady is number 1
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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 13:57:29 GMT
how many / which broncos should be on it? |
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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 13:58:17 GMT
I'm expecting the Lions to have 2 for sure, mayyyybe 3. Stafford will be 50-60, Slay should be 60-70, and Tate might sneak in there somewhere (prolly not tho)
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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 14:02:51 GMT
Top 8 (not in order)
Brady
Ryan
Julio
OBJ
Brown
Mack
Rodgers
Donald
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Post by Rondo on May 2, 2017 14:45:11 GMT
how many / which broncos should be on it? I say 5. Von, talib, harris jr, sanders, and dt. Wolfe is a maybe, and I would be very surprised if Siemian made it. |
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Post by Rondo on May 2, 2017 14:45:59 GMT
Top 8 (not in order) Brady Ryan Julio OBJ Brown Mack Rodgers Donald Von better be top 10..... |
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Post by tsk on May 2, 2017 14:47:01 GMT
Top 8 (not in order) Brady Ryan Julio OBJ Brown Mack Rodgers Donald Von better be top 10..... I should have added him there. I had like 6 people vying for those last 2 spots, but got makes it over obj and Antonio imo |
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Post by OutRosez on May 2, 2017 15:01:34 GMT
I'm expecting the Lions to have 2 for sure, mayyyybe 3. Stafford will be 50-60, Slay should be 60-70, and Tate might sneak in there somewhere (prolly not tho) Slay won't be on it again even though he's one of the best at his position. I think Tate will make it. |
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Post by Rondo on May 2, 2017 15:05:56 GMT
Von better be top 10..... I should have added him there. I had like 6 people vying for those last 2 spots, but got makes it over obj and Antonio imo Yea brown and obj will be above him for sure, and Mack too for winning the dmvp (which was bullshit) but I assume Von will be right under them |
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Post by bladefd on May 2, 2017 21:06:13 GMT
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Post by bladefd on May 2, 2017 21:40:18 GMT
Top 8 (not in order) Brady Ryan Julio OBJ Brown Mack Rodgers Donald Honestly, I have a very difficult time ranking defensive players alongside positions like QB/WR/RB in top 10 because now you have to decide which qualities hold more importance. Obviously the lowest starting QBs have more impact on the game than the best starting DE/DTs/LB/etc. i.e. Alex Smith has bigger impact on the overall game result than Von Miller, but Von Miller is easily one of the 3-5 best linebackers I have ever seen play since I started watching football in 05/06. Alex Smith probably doesn't even crack my top 50 QBs I've seen play. LB just doesn't have anywhere near the same impact as a QB or RB, especially nowadays where the rules have further marginalized the defensive side of the game. You can't get physical with the WR or QB anymore - league essentially want hands off. That means we can't fairly judge impact on the overall game. It is very difficult to judge the 2 sides on direct 1:1 ratio as 1 side has a huge advantage in not just impact but also protection by the rules. Due to that, I feel it might be better ranking defensive and offensive players separately tbh. |
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Post by tsk on May 3, 2017 13:34:57 GMT
Top 8 (not in order) Brady Ryan Julio OBJ Brown Mack Rodgers Donald Honestly, I have a very difficult time ranking defensive players alongside positions like QB/WR/RB in top 10 because now you have to decide which qualities hold more importance. Obviously the lowest starting QBs have more impact on the game than the best starting DE/DTs/LB/etc. i.e. Alex Smith has bigger impact on the overall game result than Von Miller, but Von Miller is easily one of the 3-5 best linebackers I have ever seen play since I started watching football in 05/06. Alex Smith probably doesn't even crack my top 50 QBs I've seen play. LB just doesn't have anywhere near the same impact as a QB or RB, especially nowadays where the rules have further marginalized the defensive side of the game. You can't get physical with the WR or QB anymore - league essentially want hands off. That means we can't fairly judge impact on the overall game. It is very difficult to judge the 2 sides on direct 1:1 ratio as 1 side has a huge advantage in not just impact but also protection by the rules. Due to that, I feel it might be better ranking defensive and offensive players separately tbh. You're thinking about this the wrong way, and vastly overcomplicating it. This list isn't about the intricacies of positional importance, it's about players that are so good at their position that they transcend the label of what they do. Besides, ranking offensive players and defensive players does nothing to quell positional discrepancies. If you're still hung up on positional importance, how could you possibly compare a Tackle with a Quarterback with a Receiver? |
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Post by tsk on May 9, 2017 15:23:53 GMT
updated. lol @ blount
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Post by tsk on May 10, 2017 17:55:19 GMT
OutRosez tate definitley isn't making it now
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Post by tsk on May 16, 2017 12:58:21 GMT
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