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Post by ballup on Aug 31, 2016 21:34:20 GMT
With the new season coming up in a couple of months, I think it's a good time to rev up our NBA minds and share who we think is good, who we think is mediocre, and who we think should only play in garbage time during the upcoming season. Instead of bickering whether Reggie Jackson is the 67th best player or if its Kemba Walker, we should separate guys into a tier list instead. I think we can agree on the following formula
S - Superstar
A - All Star
B - Starting Quality
C - Bench Quality
D - Garbage Time Filler
E - Only needed as a body in practice
We can use + and - to create more specific separations. Let me know if there are any changes you'd like in the format.
Post your personal list and while you don't need to include every player, but try to provide an example or two in each tier!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 22:32:48 GMT
I'll do the pistons
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2016 22:37:30 GMT
S - nobody
A - Drummond
B - Reggie Jackson, KCP
C - Marcus Morris , Stanley Johnson, Tobias Harris, Boban
D - Ish Smith, Aron Baynes, Reggie Bullock
E - Steve Blake
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Post by Suguru101 on Aug 31, 2016 23:01:09 GMT
Raptors
S No one
A- Lowry
B+ Valanciunas, Derozan
B- Joseph and Carrol
C+ Patterson, Powell
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Post by bladefd on Sept 1, 2016 1:05:12 GMT
Lakers
S - Superstar ......
A - All Star .....
B - Starting Quality ....... D'Angelo Russell, Jordan Clarkson, Luol Deng, Brandon Ingram,
C - Bench Quality ......... Mozgov, Julius Randle, Lou Williams, Larry Nance, Nick Young
D - Garbage Time Filler ........ Tarik Black, Ivica Zubac, Marcelo Huertas, Jose Calderon,
E - Only needed as a body in practice ...... Yi Jianlian, Anthony Brown,
Ingram will be All Star next year after 1yr of NBA experience. Nick Young is getting traded or cut. Julius Randle will be starting quality next year. Luol Deng will go to the bench next year.
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Post by S E N G O O N E R on Sept 1, 2016 1:55:21 GMT
I'll do the Rockets.
S- James Harden
T- Everyone else
S is Superstar
T is Trash
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Post by Suguru101 on Sept 1, 2016 15:05:21 GMT
Harden is not a superstar.
He's an All-NBA caliber player whose stats make him look better than his actual impact. So he'd be something like an A+
Only superstars are LeBron, a healthy Curry and Durant.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 16:20:09 GMT
Bulls
S-No one
A-Jimmy
B-Wade, Taj, Maybe Mirotic, and RoLo
C-McBuckets, Rondo, Portis, and Grant
D-Felicio, Valentine
E-Everyone else but Tony Snell
F-Player who somehow is in the league but brings nothing of value, Tony Snell
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Post by ballup on Sept 4, 2016 18:10:03 GMT
Guess I'll do the Celts.
S: None
A-: Thomas, Horford
B+: Crowder, Bradley
B-: Smart
C+: Amir
C: Jerebko, Olynyk,Green
C-: Rozier, Brown
D: Mickey, Hunter, and signed rooks
E: Young
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Sept 4, 2016 18:17:56 GMT
I'll do the Heat and the Jazz.
Jazz:
S: None
A: Hayward, Gobert, Favors. All through could legit be all-stars, Hayward and Favors already should have been, and Gobert should be healthy enough this year. Only one of the 3 will be one though, even if all three are the caliber
B. Burks, Hill, Hood, Lyles. Lyles is a bit of a stretch, but the dude is much better than his stats and minutes last year would have you believe.
C. Joe Johnson, Diaw, Exum
D. Jeff Withey - Solid player, but there are better ones out there. Shelvin Mack
E. Raul Neto
Heat:
S. None
A: Bosh and Whiteside, that is if Bosh even plays this year (I think he will)
B. Dragic, Richardson, Winslow - Maybe not even Winslow, if his offense doesn't pick up then he could be a bust. Wings need to score
C. Tyler Johnson - Too injury prone for my liking
D. None
E. Everyone else, roster isn't looking too good
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Sept 4, 2016 18:19:06 GMT
Guess I'll do the Celts. S: None A-: Thomas, Horford B+: Crowder, Bradley B-: Smart C+: Amir C: Jerebko, Olynyk C-: Rozier, Brown D: Mickey, Hunter, and signed rooks E: Young Lol, I read "Nene" where you put "None" and thought "What the crap is ballup thinking?" Celts should be good though. That top five of Thomas, Horford, Crowder, Bradley, and Smart is going to be fantastic going forward. Jazz will be better though, just a better overall team |
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Sept 4, 2016 18:22:27 GMT
Bulls S-No one A-Jimmy B-Wade, Taj, Maybe Mirotic, and RoLo C-McBuckets, Rondo, Portis, and Grant D-Felicio, Valentine E-Everyone else but Tony Snell F-Player who somehow is in the league but brings nothing of value, Tony Snell How many PPG do you think Jimmy is going to put up this year? Wade is going to put up 16 ppg I believe (hoping for more), and Butler should put up 21 or 22 depending on what Rondo does for him. I think this Bulls team will make the playoffs this year, really hope they matchup against Cleveland so we can finally see the LeBron vs. Wade matchup we've waited 14 years for |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 18:23:16 GMT
Bulls S-No one A-Jimmy B-Wade, Taj, Maybe Mirotic, and RoLo C-McBuckets, Rondo, Portis, and Grant D-Felicio, Valentine E-Everyone else but Tony Snell F-Player who somehow is in the league but brings nothing of value, Tony Snell How many PPG do you think Jimmy is going to put up this year? Wade is going to put up 16 ppg I believe (hoping for more), and Butler should put up 21 or 22 depending on what Rondo does for him. I think this Bulls team will make the playoffs this year, really hope they matchup against Cleveland so we can finally see the LeBron vs. Wade matchup we've waited 14 years for Like 25 or so. I think he's going to be amazing. |
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Sept 4, 2016 18:27:59 GMT
How many PPG do you think Jimmy is going to put up this year? Wade is going to put up 16 ppg I believe (hoping for more), and Butler should put up 21 or 22 depending on what Rondo does for him. I think this Bulls team will make the playoffs this year, really hope they matchup against Cleveland so we can finally see the LeBron vs. Wade matchup we've waited 14 years for Like 25 or so. I think he's going to be amazing. Really? That's a huge jump. Hope he does it though, I like Jimmy Butler. Funny thing, the Jazz radio announcers were saying earlier this summer that they think Gordon Hayward is better than Jimmy Butler, and I was just like "Nah! Jimmy by a mile." I assume you root for the Bulls then? I'll be sure to give you crap when the Jazz play them on November 17 on TNT, be ready |
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Post by ballup on Sept 4, 2016 19:22:18 GMT
I'll do the Heat and the Jazz. Jazz: S: None A: Hayward, Gobert, Favors. All through could legit be all-stars, Hayward and Favors already should have been, and Gobert should be healthy enough this year. Only one of the 3 will be one though, even if all three are the caliber B. Burks, Hill, Hood, Lyles. Lyles is a bit of a stretch, but the dude is much better than his stats and minutes last year would have you believe. C. Joe Johnson, Diaw, Exum D. Jeff Withey - Solid player, but there are better ones out there. Shelvin Mack E. Raul Neto Heat: S. None A: Bosh and Whiteside, that is if Bosh even plays this year (I think he will) B. Dragic, Richardson, Winslow - Maybe not even Winslow, if his offense doesn't pick up then he could be a bust. Wings need to score C. Tyler Johnson - Too injury prone for my liking D. None E. Everyone else, roster isn't looking too good Honestly, I think Favors is A, Hayward is A-, and Gobert is in a limbo between A- and B+ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2016 20:13:45 GMT
Like 25 or so. I think he's going to be amazing. Really? That's a huge jump. Hope he does it though, I like Jimmy Butler. Funny thing, the Jazz radio announcers were saying earlier this summer that they think Gordon Hayward is better than Jimmy Butler, and I was just like "Nah! Jimmy by a mile." I assume you root for the Bulls then? I'll be sure to give you crap when the Jazz play them on November 17 on TNT, be ready I posted this a while ago somewhere on here, but in 14? games without Rose last year he averaged 27/6/7 (or something like that) Obviously that's not a lot of games, but it is still a significant amount. I wouldn't be surprised if he put up a really good line like that. Rondo's awful, Wade's old and breaking down if he isn't already broken down. There's no other scoring options, the team isn't going to play defense anyway so he probably won't try on that end that much. The only thing that makes me think he may not is that really Hoitard for all his inadequacies (to say the least), actually did come up with a move that might have saved Rose's career which was moving him to the 2 guard basically and having Jimmy run the point. While I definitely think his future is probably running the point in a giant line up offensively, and then guarding the best perimeter player on defense...I just don't know if Hoitard is smart enough or even dumb enough to try that with Wade this year. He should really, but I doubt he will. If he doesn't he'll probably only put up a really high amount of points. Like 27 or so but on bad efficiency with some assists that isn't really an impressive amount. He averaged 21 last year with a horrible offensive team so I'm pretty sure that with an even worse offensive team he'll get free reign to take even more shots regardless of quality. |
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Post by WayOfWad3 on Sept 4, 2016 23:02:36 GMT
Really? That's a huge jump. Hope he does it though, I like Jimmy Butler. Funny thing, the Jazz radio announcers were saying earlier this summer that they think Gordon Hayward is better than Jimmy Butler, and I was just like "Nah! Jimmy by a mile." I assume you root for the Bulls then? I'll be sure to give you crap when the Jazz play them on November 17 on TNT, be ready I posted this a while ago somewhere on here, but in 14? games without Rose last year he averaged 27/6/7 (or something like that) Obviously that's not a lot of games, but it is still a significant amount. I wouldn't be surprised if he put up a really good line like that. Rondo's awful, Wade's old and breaking down if he isn't already broken down. There's no other scoring options, the team isn't going to play defense anyway so he probably won't try on that end that much. The only thing that makes me think he may not is that really Hoitard for all his inadequacies (to say the least), actually did come up with a move that might have saved Rose's career which was moving him to the 2 guard basically and having Jimmy run the point. While I definitely think his future is probably running the point in a giant line up offensively, and then guarding the best perimeter player on defense...I just don't know if Hoitard is smart enough or even dumb enough to try that with Wade this year. He should really, but I doubt he will. If he doesn't he'll probably only put up a really high amount of points. Like 27 or so but on bad efficiency with some assists that isn't really an impressive amount. He averaged 21 last year with a horrible offensive team so I'm pretty sure that with an even worse offensive team he'll get free reign to take even more shots regardless of quality. I think I actually remember seeing that stat, it might've been 27/7/7 from what I remember. And yeah offense is going to be interesting this year, I really hope they can bring it together. Wade and Rondo showed potential last year (Wade shot 50% from 3 in the playoffs, not in a few attempts; Rondo averaged 36% for the year), although the odds are heavily against them to repeat that this year. And it sounds like you aren't that big a fan of Hoiberg, and I can understand that. Wade I wouldn't say is broken down though, but perhaps that's just me not wanting my favorite player to fade into the distance. But Wade finally got healthy last year, averaged 19/4/4 and showed that if needed he can carry an offense for stretches. Obviously this is a year later, but I still feel he can do that if need be. Jimmy's going to have to pick up his 3-point shooting too though, he's like Jekyll and Hyde every year with that |
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Sept 15, 2016 23:24:20 GMT
Supersonics
F - No bodies to play with in practice
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Post by Last Stand on Sept 22, 2016 13:51:54 GMT
Raptors
S - N/A
A - Lowry, DeRozan, Valanciunas
B - Carroll, Joseph
C - Patterson, Sullinger, Powell, Ross
TBD - The rest of the squad.
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Post by ballup on Sept 28, 2016 1:25:36 GMT
Gonna do centers. Names that pop up first in a tier does not necessarily mean they are better than the last person listed in that tier.
S - DeMarcus Cousins
A - Hassan Whiteside, Andre Drummond, DeAndre Jordan, Karl-Anthony Towns
B - Dwight Howard, Al Horford, Brook Lopez, Al Jefferson, Jahlil Okafor, Enes Kanter, Gorgui Dieng, Joakim Noah, Nikola Vucevic, Nerlens Noel, Steven Adams, Marcin Gortat, Rudy Gobert, Marc Gasol, Robin Lopez, Pau Gasol, Jonas Valanciunas, Greg Monroe, Nikola Jokic
C - Festus Ezeli, Clint Capela, Aron Baynes, Bismack Biyombo, Alex Len, Cody Zeller, Anderson Varejao, J.J. Hickson, Kosta Koufos, Tyler Zeller, Tiago Splitter, Ian Mahinmi, Roy Hibbert, Kelly Olynyk, Kevin Seraphin, Tarik Black, Timofey Mozgov, Jordan Hill, Tyson Chandler, Alexis Ajinca, Frank Kaminsky, Zaza Pachulia, Andrew Bogut, Mason Plumlee, Myles Turner, Willie Cauley-Stein, John Henson, Meyers Leonard, Jusuf Nurkic
D - Miles Plumlee, Cole Aldrich, Omer Asik, Jeff Withey, Dewayne Dedmon, Boban Marjanovic, Joffrey Lauvergne, Jason Smith
E - Andrea Bargnani, Kendrick Perkins, Nikola Pekovic, Robert Sacre, Chris Anderson, Chris Kaman, Henry Sims, Justin Hamilton
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Post by Buck on Sept 28, 2016 5:06:19 GMT
A - Giannis (gonna make the jump this year)
B - Middleton, Jabari, Monroe (good player, bad fit)
C - Teletovic, Delly, MCW, Henson, Plumlee, Beasley
D - Brogdon, Vaughn, Terry, Thon
E - Novak
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Post by bladefd on Oct 13, 2016 23:39:44 GMT
First Tier
1 - LeBron James
2 - Stephen Curry
3 - Kevin Durant
4 - Kawhi Leonard
5 - Russell Westbrook
Second Tier
6 - Chris Paul
7 - Anthony Davis
8 - Paul George
9 - James Harden
10 - Demarcus Cousins
Third Tier
11 - Lamarcus Aldridge
12 - Karl Anthony-Towns
13 - Damian Lilliard
14 - Blake Griffin
15 - Draymond Green
16 - Kyrie Irving
17 - Jimmy Butler
18 - Klay Thompson
19 - Marc Gasol
20 - Kyle Lowry
Fourth Tier
21 - John Wall
22 - Paul Millsap
23 - Carmelo Anthony
24 - Andre Drummond
25 - DeAndre Jordan
26 - Al Horford
27 - Eric Bledsoe
28 - Mike Conley
29 - Hassan Whiteside
30 - Dirk Nowitzki
Fifth Tier
31 - Pau Gasol
32 - Kevin Love
33 - Rudy Gobert
34 - Serge Ibaka
35 - Derrick Favors
36 - Kemba Walker
37 - Dwyane Wade
38 - Dwight Howard
39 - Brook Lopez
40 - Gordon Hayward
Sixth Tier
41 - Khris Middleton
42 - Nicolas Batum
43 - Andre Igoudala
44 - DeMar Derozan
45 - Kristaps Porzingis
46 - Steven Adams
47 - Giannis Antetokounmpo
48 - Isaiah Thomas
49 - C.J McCollum
50 - Greg Monroe
51 - Luol Deng, Los Angeles Lakers
* top 25 was simple, but 26-50 took me 1hr to rank - tell me if I forgot somebody lol
* - Chris Bosh would be top 25 on this list, but he is probably retiring // left him out altogether
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Post by bladefd on Oct 14, 2016 6:26:20 GMT
NBA expert althornton, what do you think of my top 50 ranking list?? Buddy, I would like to hear your expertise - educate me, will ya??  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 12:01:26 GMT
Spurs, not including rookies. I'll add the rookies after a month or two
S = Kawhi Leonard
A = LaMarcus Aldridge
B+ = Pau Gasol
B = Tony Parker, Danny Green
C+ = Manu Ginobili, Patty Mills, David Lee
C-/D = Kyle Anderson, Dewayne Dedmon, Jonathan Simmons, Joel Anthony
Rookies = Dejounte Murray, Davis Bertans, Patricio Garino, Nicolas Laprovittola, Bryn Forbes, Livio Jean-Charles, Ryan Arcidiacono
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 12:03:26 GMT
NBA expert althornton , what do you think of my top 50 ranking list?? Buddy, I would like to hear your expertise - educate me, will ya?? Not bad list but you completely ignored OP's format lol |
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Post by ballup on Oct 14, 2016 12:14:15 GMT
NBA expert althornton , what do you think of my top 50 ranking list?? Buddy, I would like to hear your expertise - educate me, will ya?? Not bad list but you completely ignored OP's format lol I'll allow it. He originally had his own theead, but I merged the two threads. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 12:21:27 GMT
Not bad list but you completely ignored OP's format lol I'll allow it. He originally had his own theead, but I merged the two threads. I'll let you off the hook this time bladefd. But don't let it happen again!  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 12:25:51 GMT
How would you convert his list?
I'd say
S = 1-5
A = 6-30
B = 31-50
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Post by bladefd on Oct 14, 2016 21:45:40 GMT
I'll allow it. He originally had his own theead, but I merged the two threads. I'll let you off the hook this time bladefd . But don't let it happen again! Yeah, I created a different thread because it did not fit in this thread. ballup was being mean to me  |
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Post by althornton on Oct 14, 2016 21:50:43 GMT
Wow ballup exposed as a bte bully |
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