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Post by coopernicus on Jun 3, 2016 0:03:31 GMT
he controls all his molecules he's done it before, the counter was the it was disallowed in that fight so why is it allowed in this one? if it were allowed in the first round it would be allowed now (although has flash gone in to the future to know he would be fighting apocalypse like rachael who is from the future?) It wasn't disallowed in round one, it was proven ineffective cause you didn't understand how Rachel's powers worked You're also not sourcing apocalypse using his blood for controlling metahumans.... Saying that he's done it before isn't sourcing
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 3, 2016 0:09:01 GMT
You're also not sourcing apocalypse using his blood for controlling metahumans.... Saying that he's done it before isn't sourcing You're also not sourcing him using force fields, and the effectiveness of said force fields. For my benefit, please provide some scans or references to specific comics so we can be on the same page
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 3, 2016 0:35:38 GMT
Those Scans are nice but most of those are in space the fight is taking place in savage land. It's going to be a up close slug fest where I think CA overpowers Nova. Captain Atom had never visited The Savage Land one day in his life. Not only that but Nova has visited on multiple occasions and is an easy location for the Worldmind to instantaneously gain an infinite amount of information on. Also Nova can fly so he can certainly elevate into the savage lands stratosphere. Also he has punched people out of their original location before. Thus is the might of the Nova force. In the history of this game a fight has been allowed to start on earth and end up in space. If CA flees, there is no where to run to, for Nova has caught up to fast beings like the Silver Surfer in mere seconds. Has traversed universes in mere moments. Has hunted beings down even unto the cancerverse. Also thank you for admitting that my scans are nice. Sorry I can't buy the whole "the battle can end up in a different location." It's a poor argument anyone can make. Who can warp time, speed ext.
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Post by Bob on Jun 3, 2016 0:42:55 GMT
Captain Atom had never visited The Savage Land one day in his life. Not only that but Nova has visited on multiple occasions and is an easy location for the Worldmind to instantaneously gain an infinite amount of information on. Also Nova can fly so he can certainly elevate into the savage lands stratosphere. Also he has punched people out of their original location before. Thus is the might of the Nova force. In the history of this game a fight has been allowed to start on earth and end up in space. If CA flees, there is no where to run to, for Nova has caught up to fast beings like the Silver Surfer in mere seconds. Has traversed universes in mere moments. Has hunted beings down even unto the cancerverse. Also thank you for admitting that my scans are nice. Sorry I can't buy the whole "the battle can end up in a different location." It's a poor argument anyone can make. Who can warp time, speed ext. You are refuted by an entire history of Comic book drafts were going to space has been allowed. Also flying is hardly the same as warping reality, time travel or space/time displacement. Regardless the location favors Nova anyways... I argued that staying in the location is beneficial to Nova. My posting space scans is simply showing proof of all that Dick Rider is capable of.
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 3, 2016 1:01:38 GMT
Sorry I can't buy the whole "the battle can end up in a different location." It's a poor argument anyone can make. Who can warp time, speed ext. You are refuted by an entire history of Comic book drafts were going to space has been allowed. Also flying is hardly the same as warping reality, time travel or space/time displacement. Regardless the location favors Nova anyways... I argued that staying in the location is beneficial to Nova. My posting space scans is simply showing proof of all that Dick Rider is capable of. Frankly I don't care what happened in the past. Sorry Zen location is influenced in these fights. That shouldn't somehow become invalid in a fight. Maybe I should re review the ultron vs Thor fight. Since they both can end up hypnotically in space. Or fly to an other location that could be beneficial to ultron.
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Post by Bob on Jun 3, 2016 1:09:27 GMT
You are refuted by an entire history of Comic book drafts were going to space has been allowed. Also flying is hardly the same as warping reality, time travel or space/time displacement. Regardless the location favors Nova anyways... I argued that staying in the location is beneficial to Nova. My posting space scans is simply showing proof of all that Dick Rider is capable of. Frankly I don't care what happened in the past. Sorry Zen location is influenced in over fights. That shouldn't somehow become invalid in the fight. Maybe I should re review the ultron vs Thor fight. Since they both can end up hypnotically in space. Or fly to an other location beneficial to ultron. Nova wins because he benefits the most from fighting in The Savage Land.
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 3, 2016 1:51:37 GMT
Apparently I should have reviewed my previous post before submitting it lol.
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Post by Bob on Jun 3, 2016 2:19:47 GMT
Apparently I should have reviewed my previous post before submitting it lol. i dont know what that means..lol but its all good, no one is reading anything in here since possibly most of us are watching the game
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 3, 2016 2:23:00 GMT
Apparently I should have reviewed my previous post before submitting it lol. i dont know what that means..lol but its all good, no one is reading anything in here since possibly most of us are watching the game My I phone auto texted everything. The wrong words were replaced making my sentences look horrible lol.
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Post by Bob on Jun 3, 2016 2:41:09 GMT
i dont know what that means..lol but its all good, no one is reading anything in here since possibly most of us are watching the game My I phone auto texted everything. The wrong words were replaced making my sentences look horrible lol. i agree, phone posting is the worst
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Post by Rondo on Jun 3, 2016 14:30:59 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 14:55:37 GMT
votes coming soon to pump some life into the thread.
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 3, 2016 15:04:54 GMT
TSK gonna let out a big pump
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 15:07:22 GMT
TSK Round 1 Matchup 4 Picks ZeN vs American Bad@$$ Nova vs Captain Atom really tight on this one too. TheEther vs blade Mon-El vs Black Boltmake a godamn argument guys. Outbreak vs Coopernicus Apocalypse vs The Flash I actually think this one is really close. need @guyina4000dollarsuit to source some of his claims. Rondo vs Anti Hero Dr. Doom vs Reed Richards (prepped)Really cool matchup seeing as how they are the main antagonists of each other. How much can prep really matter here? They both know everything and anything about each other. I'm having a hard time seeing Reed pulling out the solo win (especially 10-0, Anti Hero plz expand on this) without his 3 buddies... so im going with doom.
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 3, 2016 15:08:40 GMT
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 17:11:10 GMT
Are you out of your god damn mind, TSK! Like you said, they both know everything about each other. What Doom doesn't know right now, is that he's fighting Reed. Reed with prep knows who he's fighting, has insane knowledge on Doom and how to beat him.
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 17:21:34 GMT
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 17:23:51 GMT
If you're still unsure please ask for more, I will oblige. My time is freed up and will be happy to post. Also, please don't ask for more, just come to your sense and vote RR.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 17:31:55 GMT
switching to mr fantastic. forgot how much of a nerd he was.
#preppedlivesmatter
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Post by Rondo on Jun 3, 2016 17:33:41 GMT
Are you out of your god damn mind, TSK! Like you said, they both know everything about each other. What Doom doesn't know right now, is that he's fighting Reed. Reed with prep knows who he's fighting, has insane knowledge on Doom and how to beat him. its not like he is going to see reed and be like "omg mr fantastic! how am I ever going to fight him!" more like "oh shit, its reed, I know him inside and out, not too worried about this fight" Doom will adjust quickly to whatever prep fantastic has, they are on par to genius level, except doom knows more about magic and wizardry.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 3, 2016 17:36:59 GMT
Those are cute and all, but what does that have to do with his fight against doom? does being prepped allow him to bring massive weapons to the fight and shoot him with them? if reed beats him 10/10, why doesnt he do it? Oh, because Doom is always a step ahead of him, he knows reed and what he is going to do next. You are reallly undermining doom here
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 3, 2016 17:46:57 GMT
Still waiting for @guyina4000dollarsuit to provide some sources... how about Barry Allen creating a vortex to deprive Aepoch of oxygen?
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Post by Rondo on Jun 3, 2016 18:10:26 GMT
Always prepared resilient and not easily defeated, takes a punch that tears half his face off and still comes back to defeat silver surfer. Shoot all the guns you want at him, after his shields deflect it he is still going to come back and hurt reed
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 18:30:08 GMT
In those instances (for the sake of a story line) Reed isn't prepped. In our world of the comic book draft, this is a battle arena. Reed is prepped and Doom isn't. , being prepped does make that big of a difference. Reed will have access to all the things that he would need to defeat a very familiar foe. By the time Doom would know what is up, it'd be too late, RR would already have everything he needs in place to defeat Doom. Doom would be scrambling to try and salvage a victory, to no avail though.
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 18:36:49 GMT
In almost all encounters between the FF and Doom. Doom has prep at his advantage, and still manages to lose. His ego alone could be enough for him to lose these battles, but the biggest factor is not his ego or the 4 v 1. Reed Richards, time and time again finds a plan that out does Doom. This battle is the opposite, RR is the prepped character and has access to all his tools, gadgets, devices and weapons that he's already used to defeat doom.. that plus the element of surprise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 18:37:21 GMT
I still don't see how Nova brings CA down as you can see from my earlier scan he can materialize from water. i don't know how the savage land is a big advantage for Nova.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2016 18:42:45 GMT
CA can also go intangible making Nova attacks useless.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 3, 2016 19:07:20 GMT
In almost all encounters between the FF and Doom. Doom has prep at his advantage, and still manages to lose. His ego alone could be enough for him to lose these battles, but the biggest factor is not his ego or the 4 v 1. Reed Richards, time and time again finds a plan that out does Doom. This battle is the opposite, RR is the prepped character and has access to all his tools, gadgets, devices and weapons that he's already used to defeat doom.. that plus the element of surprise. reed prepped against anyone else would be huge, but dr doom is on another level. Doom being surprised by robot hulk and he still anticipates a attack He is always one step ahead, you dont think he has a answer for anything reed can whip up and throw at him? What exactly is reed going to prep himself with in a 24 hour timespan to beat doom?
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 19:10:33 GMT
Reed prepped vs surprise attack from robot Hulk isn't exactly the same thing.
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 3, 2016 19:12:18 GMT
Doom vs Fantastic?! We've been waiting for this matchup since the first draft!! Oh wait. Doom isn't prepped...
You suck, Rondo. You freakin suck!In case you missed it.
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