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Post by Suguru101 on May 9, 2016 2:06:23 GMT
I don't understand how you can take god tier material and make it... merely good. This was so fucking underwhelming. And cutting this shit in half? Leaving the other part of the dream for a later episode?
Fuck this. I can't believe this shit. The show runners keep fucking up with the important stuff.
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Post by Rondo on May 9, 2016 4:14:43 GMT
The tower of joy scene was legit.
Wasnt there 3 knights? or is the other one in the tower?
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Post by Tom Is Dead on May 9, 2016 4:49:46 GMT
So far it looks like the supposed leaks are real.
which is pretty fucking awful to me
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 14:42:56 GMT
These 3 episodes could have literally been the opener. They're really, really stretching this shit.
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Post by Tom Is Dead on May 9, 2016 16:08:43 GMT
These 3 episodes could have literally been the opener. They're really, really stretching this shit. More like they don't know what the fuck they're doing. Characters now don't even have the same interactions, personalities and nuances as before. Instead they outright say what they're thinking every time as if they were talking encyclopedias. To make up for it the writers through in a dick joke or a fart joke here and there, just in case you weren't already weary of them after the thousandth time. The Tower of Joy fight...no emotion or somberness to it, you don't get the feeling that these are noble men doing what has to be done. They really made it like any other skirmish. Bran looks on as if he's staring at paint dry, not the fucking greatest swordsman who ever lived in action, only to say at the end. "He's better than my dad." and "Oh look, he stabbed him" as if the viewers aren't smart enough to see what's right in front of them.
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Post by Tom Is Dead on May 9, 2016 16:35:54 GMT
The tower of joy scene was legit. Wasnt there 3 knights? or is the other one in the tower? Yup the 3rd kingsguard is going to fight Ned and remove his helmet to reveal himself as Ramsay. Ramsay+Lyanna=Jon of course. He then reveals himself as the Night's King, reverts back to Ramsay form and throws Bran out through the tower window killing him for real, before then going on ahead to rape Lyanna again. 
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 17:11:17 GMT
Oh forgot about the other Stark boy they better not kill another Stark.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 18:10:52 GMT
In before Ramsey is declared Azor Ahai.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 18:15:10 GMT
These 3 episodes could have literally been the opener. They're really, really stretching this shit. Characters now don't even have the same interactions, personalities and nuances as before. Instead they outright say what they're thinking every time as if they were talking encyclopedias. To make up for it the writers through in a dick joke or a fart joke here and there, just in case you weren't already weary of them after the thousandth time. This is what I wanted to complain about. The dialogue is so dry and straight forward. We've lost Martin's metaphors and allegories that kept everything mysterious, but if you were planning close attention, you could piece together the clues. These writers are freakin terrible, which is sad, because I've read David Benioff's novel 'City of Thieves' and it's one of my favorite novels of all-time (not kidding). But his contribution to Game of Thrones? HORRIBLE! It makes me feel like he had a ghost writer for his novel.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 20:25:12 GMT
Also where and what is little finger doing?
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 20:51:53 GMT
Also where and what is little finger doing? Forget about him. We need more screen time for Ramsey. /GoT writers
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:21:46 GMT
What you guys think of the season so far?
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2016 18:25:57 GMT
I've always been a pretty casual fan and this season hasn't gotten me super excited nor has it dissuaded me from continuing watching
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Post by bladefd on May 15, 2016 21:38:44 GMT
I can't wait for tonight 
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Post by bladefd on May 16, 2016 5:41:15 GMT
I had put my thoughts from today's episode in the largest thread ever.. I feel it would be better to post my thoughts here..
Just watched Game of thrones.. What an ending.. Truly amazing! I don't want to spoil so I can't say much.
About damn time they brought Littlefinger back. I can't wait to see what his great plan is. Bolton is one cold blooded little bastard. I hate that punk so much.. Jon and Sansa have very good chemistry working together - Sansa beautiful as always.
Emilia Clarke is truly truly drop dead gorgeous! What more can I say about her? I thought she was breathtaking the moment I laid my eyes upon her in the very first episode.. I think I have the biggest crush on her from the show.. she is beautiful person on talk shows I have seen her on too <3 <3
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 6:05:55 GMT
They made jon snow timid and doubtful in this episode. Good episode overall next week's look like.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2016 13:25:32 GMT
And the Ramseywinslol trend continues...
Outside of that, a very good episode. Finally they're making some legit pushes in the plot.
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Post by Suguru101 on May 16, 2016 13:42:19 GMT
Thoughts on how the GOT endgame is shaping up everybody? Tom Is Dead i immediately thought of your when Ramsay cut the apple at the end with the same knife he killed Osha with. Lmao that was... Ugh. I liked the show's version of the Pink Letter. The repetition of "come and see" gave it a really nice vibe, which i would have not expected from Ramsay. Had some issues with Daenery's conquest. Just.... the logic behind it pisses me off. "Kill the leaders of an entire culture/nation who were the men on which the clans and economy depended on, come out naked from a building on fire and now everyone without any other thought kneels and pledges themselves to me without question. If there had been some prophecy angle that she fulfilled or something to indicate that Dothraki would not be opposed to a female doing this it would have gone better for me. Little finger's scene should have been put in an earlier episode. We waited until almost the middle of the season to find him arriving and being questioned for sending Sansa off... which he did at the middle of last season. Next episode he will already be near/on Winterfell. Spacing out his story was the way to go. Jon and Sansa's scene was pretty good for me. Liked the acting (especially Sophie Turner, did a good job) and liked how Jon wasn't eager to go into war again, though that wasn't given as much weight as i wanted. Didn't like Sansa's line of "i'll do it without you if i have to". Sounded too... much for a character that just came from what she had to endure. Tyrion's scene with the Masters only works for me if he's trying to stall things and keep them in check until Dany gets here. As it is, whether he meant it or not that's how it's going to work. Though the idea has merit.
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Post by Suguru101 on May 16, 2016 13:43:55 GMT
They made jon snow timid and doubtful in this episode. Good episode overall next week's look like. Don't know about timid, but doubtful  . And makes sense, since he literally was dead just about 48 hours ago in the show. Don't think he's too eager to get into battle and do/see killing again. Getting stabbed must give the mother of all ptsd's
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Post by Suguru101 on May 16, 2016 13:46:10 GMT
Also Brienne and Tormund. Holy shit that little interaction beat any piece of dialogue or quip they tried in this episode. Was simple and great.
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Post by Rondo on May 16, 2016 14:50:46 GMT
great episode, the dany scene at the end was a little....odd
I am intrigued on Brans story in next weeks episode.....white walkers finally making a appearance, whether it is in the past or present still good to show them again
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Post by Rondo on May 23, 2016 3:13:00 GMT
wtf
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 4:01:43 GMT
Continuing the trend of really really good episodes.
I like this.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 4:22:57 GMT
Really good episode that ending. :-[
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Post by bladefd on May 23, 2016 7:00:58 GMT
Sorry guys, long post. It is my thought process as I try to wrap my mind around what just happened. Maybe it might help somebody else figure it out. Quick explanation of that ending making sense.. goes a bit into theoretical physics. Quick short background.. So you probably already know that our world has 3 dimensions and you may know that the 4th dimension is time, which we cannot manipulate but can experience as 3-dimensional beings. Now, there is a possibility that an extraterrestrial being out there could be 4th dimensional being. This being can manipulate all 3 dimensions of space and 4th dimension of time (but cannot control it). A 5th dimensional being can control time, which was represented in the movie Interstellar if you ever saw it with the future humans who made the black hole from a different time (what Bran is doing, a 4th dimensional being can do). Game of Thrones has become very similar with Bran having the powers equivalent to a 4-dimensional being. For the game of thrones world, Bran and the old man have such power so you can literally say they are a different species entirely with the powers they have to manipulate time. We knew that they could see into the past so we thought they were just not really there and that they had no influence on the past or present. This episode proved the exact opposite! SPOILERS BELOW *** WARNING** EPISODE SPOILERS **
Bran can absolutely change the events of the past! Everytime he changes the past, the future MUST change as well kind of like the butterfly effect. In the case of Hodor, he was normal guy but he started chanting Hodor because Bran had gone back in time in the same moment when the whitewalkers were heading to the cave. Bran fucked up by warging to the past at the wrong time and not returning to the present at the right time. Here's one major issue that breaks this whole plot apart logically.. it is a paradox well-documented with the concept of using time-travel to change the past to change the present. The only reason why Bran is in this position of reaching the children of the forest in the north is due to Hodor. If Bran fucks up like he did here and changes the past, then there is NO guarantee that Hodor would even have been able to bring Bran here in the first place. It makes it all cyclical and fucks up everything. There is no way out of this time-travel paradox AFAIK. Even though Bran didn't technically time-travel, he DID alter the past which had a direct impact on the present so this paradox absolutely applies here. Second issue is that Meera was yelling "Hold the door" in the present so how the hell did that impact the past of Hodor and then in return the present-time Hodor being the way he is? Is time somehow represented as being circular? Hodor may have been busy thinking to himself "hold the door" and at that exact moment, Bran returns back to present so that is the moment Hodor's mind gets stuck at thinking of for all of eternity.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 8:41:18 GMT
Man, it was a bittersweet ending for me, so much death, you almost felt like the white walkers were going to slaughter everybody, poor direwolf Thing is, I agree with you bladefd , the only way for this to work is that time is in a way circular, so events of the future can also affect the past, that would be the only way of explaining the Hodor thing.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 12:25:53 GMT
Coldhands next episode?
Yeah, Coldhands next episode.
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Post by bladefd on May 23, 2016 19:40:19 GMT
Doesn't Bran need the tree branches to warg to certain places in time? He is no longer at the tree.
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@blackandwhite .. there is another issue too. If Bran was responsible for the wall and everything, why couldn't he just make it so the whitewalkers never existed in the first place? He could even convince the humans of the past to stay out of the far north. Then again, if this were to happen, there is no guarantee he would end up in the north to orchestrate all this in the first place. Each time he changes the past, he experiences a different timeline essentially. There is bound to be a few timelines in which he dies for whatever reason. This is why he is not supposed to change the past and/or get stuck. Look only but no touch! Hodor and the whitewalkers was the only 2 times he fucked up. There is bound to be a 3rd catastrophic mistake though.
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