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Post by Last Stand on Mar 18, 2016 19:21:27 GMT
All players have very similar styles and their greatest strength seems to be the 3 point game/off ball play.
How would you rank each player if they were on the same team level strength ? Who would you take now ? Who would you take in the future ?
Feel free to discuss and say why you picked your choice.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 18, 2016 19:28:20 GMT
I'd rank
McCollum (1st for everything)
Klay
Middleton
Beal
McCollum to me seems to be the most reliable as a scorer. While Klay has the defense, Klay's offense is pretty terrible as a 1st option without Curry. It's only a couple of games, but his decision making is downright awful. McCollum I can rely on and seems to be a better piece.
I haven't seen much of Middleton, but it looks like he took a dip this season. Same with Beal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 21:13:42 GMT
Klay-Middleton/McCollum-Beal
I'd take Middleton because he's got a great combo of size, shooting, defense, and intelligence. i've never been high on Klay, so while Klay is better right now...I wouldn't be surprised fi Middleton was the better play next year/in the future.
McCollum is a little undersized IMO. 6'4 at the 2 isn't as bad as it was ten years ago, but it's not exactly a strength.
Beal is never healthy. I'd avoid him at all costs, plus he's definitely the worst to me.
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Post by Last Stand on Mar 26, 2016 19:55:02 GMT
BuckThought you might want to share your thoughts.
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Post by Buck on Mar 26, 2016 20:10:43 GMT
Klay
Mids
CJ
Beal
Beal is overrated to me, and i'm guilty of overrating him in the past. he just can't stay healthy and even when he is healthy he just hasn't taken the next step like i hoped he would. he's good but nothing super special. Wall needs a more dependable sidekick.
Mids has been nasty this year, his advanced stats are crap compared to last year but it's mostly due to the team being crap, but as a player he's awesome. he started the year slow as usual but he's putting up 21/4/5 on 45/39/88 shooting since christmas (42 games). borderline all-star level offensively, with great defense to go with it. One of the best two-way wings in the game. His playmaking has been terrific as well, his ballhandling/vision is approaching point forward levels, he and Giannis are both better point guards than anyone on the roster, and it's not just by default either.
the difference to me between middleton and cj/klay is that both of the other two play with amazing offensive PGs from long range who draw a ton of defensive pressure...middleton is literally the only competent distance shot maker on our team, opposing defenses suffocate him every game. they don't have to worry about anyone else from range so he gets trapped, doubled, bumped, shoved, etc all the time.
i think middleton is a bit better than cj due to defense and i think his upside is higher as well..and while i think klay is better right now i think middleton's ceiling is just as high..klay is a more explosive shooter but middleton is a better ballhandler/playmaker. time will tell, klay could stay better or middleton could take another step.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 26, 2016 20:18:35 GMT
I'm surprised you placed Klay first. I thought you would at least say either CJ or Middleton as the first two. It's hard to gauge Klay's value when he's playing with top 10 (should be consensus at the very least) peak Curry. Whenever I've seen Klay play without Curry, it's just ugly and predictable offense. In some cases, he looked clueless if he tries to create a shot. Granted, there is a limited sample size, but with the emergence of Middleton after MCW went down, I'd take Middleton over Klay now
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Post by SugarHill on Mar 26, 2016 20:21:40 GMT
CJ does the brunt of his offense through iso scoring. Very disrespectful to compare him to the bird fed superstar
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Post by Buck on Mar 26, 2016 20:50:46 GMT
I'm surprised you placed Klay first. I thought you would at least say either CJ or Middleton as the first two. It's hard to gauge Klay's value when he's playing with top 10 (should be consensus at the very least) peak Curry. Whenever I've seen Klay play without Curry, it's just ugly and predictable offense. In some cases, he looked clueless if he tries to create a shot. Granted, there is a limited sample size, but with the emergence of Middleton after MCW went down, I'd take Middleton over Klay now the homer in me thinks middleton is better, but idk, the sample is a factor. klay has been klay for like 2 full seasons now, middleton has only been playing at this level for 40-50 games. i definitely agree he's a more complete player with his handles and passing, and more capable of having an offense flow through him, which is why i'd rather have him on the bucks. but klay's skillset of being almost entirely non ball dominant is also valuable in its own right. it looks ugly when curry sits but it also works beautifully when he's in. now that i think about it, middleton would be insane on the warriors next to curry, dray, iggy, etc. amazing spacing, passing at every position, ton of ball movement/off ball motion, etc..he'd torch teams with that much freedom. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 20:52:45 GMT
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Post by Buck on Mar 26, 2016 21:04:03 GMT
Wait, dat you Milbuck? ? what's good man? shiiiiit. just need to get smook's fine ass in here now. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2016 21:05:29 GMT
Wait, dat you Milbuck? ? what's good man? shiiiiit. just need to get smook's fine ass in here now. Yea, I've been wanting to get Smook in here, but Jeff has disabled PM's so theres no real way of getting in there now. |
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