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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 16:15:09 GMT
No spoilers in this post just tagging the usual meme bois and sug SugarHill Suguru101 @boogiewoogiewam @notacop Lampz R.I.P. uncle Teddy Scottie4Hottie Now, dasher! now, @dancer! now @prancer and @vixen! On, @comet! on, @cupid! on, @donner and @blitzen! Also gonna eat up the next couple posts so that way nothing appears on the screen don't mind me.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 16:15:24 GMT
nom nom nom
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 16:15:37 GMT
I eat posts, om nom
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 16:16:08 GMT
What a beautiful ending for our homeys. STOP READING AFTER THIS POST IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE.
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Post by R.I.P. uncle Teddy on Apr 26, 2019 16:18:32 GMT
I heard Thanos lost because of feminism.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 16:32:29 GMT
Things I loved: -Cap's ending -If you didn't stay for the captain marvel post credits scene, or watch the release of it on twitter this week you were lost as to how they knew her already lol -The acting from Chris Evans, RDJ, Karen Gillan, Scarjo, and Jeremy Renner in particular. Ruffalo fucking killed it as Professor Hulk too. Which was an unexpected delight. -Killing Thanos in 15 minutes. -That final fight -Bye bye Gamora, yay bringing in Thor and Nebula for Guardians. Very hyped. -Literally every fight scene -Amazing love letter to the fan. We all know each of the scenes and dialogue I'm talking about. -It has a few glaring flaws, but still because of how amazing it was to wrap up some of these characters storylines over 10 years and to largely do it amazingly well felt really great. It's a marvel (hahaha get it) that they pulled that off as well as they did, despite some of my issues with it below.
Things I didn't like: -Iron Man's ending. It makes sense that he'd sacrifice himself to save his daughter's life...abstractly I guess since Pepper didn't lose the pregnancy in the original snap so she probably wouldn't have disappeared in a new snap? Unless it was randomized again. But it just didn't feel entirely proper. Definitely should have had him to talk to Peter and Cap. Maybe on a rewatch I'll be more into it, because I do think it was necessary for him and Cap to leave the MCU so others could rise up, but it just didn't feel properly. The only thing I haven't really liked with the Russos and their writing team for their movies is they never really nailed Iron Man for me. They got the comedic aspects down perfectly (they did for everyone amazingly), but I just couldn't vibe with him in Civil War or this one. I liked him in Infinity War 1 but that was it. -I needed some major emotional bro hugging when Cap and Iron Man made up. We didn't get that. I wanted some Winchester brother "oh I'm a dumbass can you forgive me" level shit. Not some "hey here's your shield, and I solved the time travel problem we cool again?" dialogue. I'm probably the only one that will feel that way though. -Losing the tesseract. I get that it was necessary so that way it could easily explain Cap's decision later on. And I'm 100% fine with that, and I'm even fine with Tony talking to his dad. It just felt....long? to me I guess. Not really sure. I don't think it was long, and it could definitely change on a rewatch. -girl power hour scene -Needs moar Captain Marvel but I can somewhat understand why she was a bit player given that they shot this before her solo movie. I'm fine with it I guess, they probably didn't know how to fully write her or use her (I assume the same is true of Black Panther as well and that's why he got snapped because there's no way if they released black panther a year before Infinity War 1 he gets snapped lol). -2014 Thanos. He just didn't feel as threatening as in Infinity War? It's not a major gripe, just after what we'd gotten last year it felt a bit more dull and lacking. Also power level inconsistencies since Thor, Cap, and Iron Man can't easily beat him even though Iron Man does with 4 guardians until Quill fucks them over, Strange, and Spider-Man. Especially since they had the hammer and the axe BUT WHATEVER!!!! NOT ENOUGH TO RUIN THAT FINAL FIGHT!! -Cap's ending is inconsistent with the timeline, so he either completely botched theirs or made a separate one lol. Also not entirely in character for cap to run from all the fights that he knows will happen without him (hydra forming inside of SHIELD lol) from 45-whenever the fuck he gets out of fighting shape but hey. It was a beautiful ending. They should have brought him back on the time pad thing instead of him walking to the bench to keep things more consistent with the time stream but again, whatever. It was the perfect ending for him so I'm gonna completely look past it.
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Post by R.I.P. uncle Teddy on Apr 26, 2019 17:11:41 GMT
I don't understand why they didnt just use kamehameha wave
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Post by SugarHill on Apr 26, 2019 19:14:03 GMT
>liking the girl power scene 
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 22:28:13 GMT
>liking the girl power scene  I don't even know girls that didn't find that contrived lol.
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Post by I don't watch the NBA on Apr 26, 2019 22:50:01 GMT
>liking the girl power scene  i dont know anyoen who liked it
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Post by Suguru101 on Apr 26, 2019 23:16:50 GMT
Calling it Infinity War 2 is low key disrespectful.
How do they go from here? They seem to have a perfect future team leader in Tom Holland, but iirc Sony's deal with Marvel runs out after 5 movies, and Sony might be dumb enough to try to keep him exclusive after this.
I don't see Brie Larson being able to credibly lead the team, nor Thor (he was super fun in Endgame, but mostly during the beginning stuff and the comedy bit. He fell flat for me during his "serious" moments with his mom").
Fuck. Cap, Nat and Tony were the soul of this current iteration, I don't know how the next few phases keep the level of quality.
What do we know about Phase 4? And goddamn at me becoming interested in Marvel only now. Going to have to go watch everything.
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Post by Lampz on Apr 26, 2019 23:27:29 GMT
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 23:32:42 GMT
Calling it Infinity War 2 is low key disrespectful. How do they go from here? They seem to have a perfect future team leader in Tom Holland, but iirc Sony's deal with Marvel runs out after 3 movies, and Sony might be dumb enough to try to keep him exclusive after this. I don't see Brie Larson being able to credibly lead the team, nor Thor (he was super fun in Endgame, but mostly during the beginning stuff and the comedy bit. He fell flat for me during his "serious" moments with his mom"). Fuck. Cap, Nat and Tony were the soul of this current iteration, I don't know how the next few phases keep the level of quality. What do we know about Phase 4? And goddamn at me becoming interested in Marvel only now. Going to have to go watch everything. Endgame is a terrible title even if they mentioned it in the last two avengers movies. Fight me. It's gonna be Black Panther, for sure. If they go cosmic, and they almost assuredly will at this point, Captain Marvel/Thor for a bit I think. Pretty sure Hemsworth loves doing the movies and he's pretty young (35) so he could stick around for a long time if he wanted. Makes sense to at least have him lead for the next one and then maybe kill him off after that. I'd assume Ruffalo walks away sooner or later too because he's 51 and Paramount just doesn't want to work with Disney for a solo movie. But we're pretty sure that Nova is coming and with the Fantastic 4 joining sooner or later the cosmic stuff is inevitable so it'll be Marvel to some extent. Might wind up with a West Coast Avengers type thing where there's some Earth peeps, and then there's like a Cosmic Avengers type with Marvel, Guardians, Nova, etc. We're getting for sure: Guardians 3, BP 2, Cap marvel 2, Spider-man far from home although now they're saying that it's actually just the end of phase 3 with that one but whatever. Black Widow prequel and a Doctor Strange 2. Everything else is up in the air. Also I think until they do younger Avengers, like Ms Marvel, Spider-Man won't ever get put into a leadership spot since he takes the viewpoint of the younger audience members.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 23:33:59 GMT
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 23:34:48 GMT
I like how shade kept things balanced, as all things should be.
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Post by Lampz on Apr 26, 2019 23:40:31 GMT
it's a winner based purely on all the emotions it hits, and it does a really good job bringing everything together and concluding this chapter, but it's funny how you're kind of just expected to accept that stark built a literal time machine that's seemingly flawless, and it carries the entire premise
i mean it's not all that outlandish in a superhero universe but still comes across a bit shaky
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 23:47:09 GMT
it's a winner based purely on all the emotions it hits, and it does a really good job bringing everything together and concluding this chapter, but it's funny how you're kind of just expected to accept that stark built a literal time machine that's seemingly flawless, and it carries the entire premise i mean it's not all that outlandish in a superhero universe but still comes across a bit shaky AND IN ONE NIGHT! It works because of the ant-man and the wasp stuff though. If you look too deeply into it like why the fuck did Michelle Pfieffer literally age 30 years in the quantum realm if a year=an hour it fails apart pretty bad lol. You just gotta accept it's possible because of a little time manipulation by stark's invention to go backwards and not just forwards. BUT NOT TOO DEEPLY! Just uh...skim the surface a bit! I honestly thought they'd have just taken the cop out way, and just went back to New York. Go through the hole in the sky, kill Thanos there and just explain that the rules of time travel in this universe are that you can actually change the timeline and nothing is written in stone (doctor who shit basically). Rather than setting up alternate universes, especially since they kind of totally botched their own time travel stuff with the Cap ending. Which again, I'm fine with because I love me some fine American ass, but it makes absolutely no sense lol.
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Post by Lampz on Apr 26, 2019 23:52:21 GMT
it's a winner based purely on all the emotions it hits, and it does a really good job bringing everything together and concluding this chapter, but it's funny how you're kind of just expected to accept that stark built a literal time machine that's seemingly flawless, and it carries the entire premise i mean it's not all that outlandish in a superhero universe but still comes across a bit shaky AND IN ONE NIGHT! It works because of the ant-man and the wasp stuff though. If you look too deeply into it like why the fuck did Michelle Pfieffer literally age 30 years in the quantum realm if a year=an hour it fails apart pretty bad lol. You just gotta accept it's possible because of a little time manipulation by stark's invention to go backwards and not just forwards. BUT NOT TOO DEEPLY! Just uh...skim the surface a bit!I honestly thought they'd have just taken the cop out way, and just went back to New York. Go through the hole in the sky, kill Thanos there and just explain that the rules of time travel in this universe are that you can actually change the timeline and nothing is written in stone (doctor who shit basically). Rather than setting up alternate universes, especially since they kind of totally botched their own time travel stuff with the Cap ending. Which again, I'm fine with because I love me some fine American ass, but it makes absolutely no sense lol. yeah that's the thing with time travel stories, they all fall apart once you scratch the surface
but whatever it's fine. all we needed was cap with thor's hammer and some fine american ass
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Post by Lampz on Apr 26, 2019 23:56:38 GMT
OutRosez im assuming you followed a lot of the promotional and pre hype stuff. who did you expect to die going in?
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 26, 2019 23:59:24 GMT
AND IN ONE NIGHT! It works because of the ant-man and the wasp stuff though. If you look too deeply into it like why the fuck did Michelle Pfieffer literally age 30 years in the quantum realm if a year=an hour it fails apart pretty bad lol. You just gotta accept it's possible because of a little time manipulation by stark's invention to go backwards and not just forwards. BUT NOT TOO DEEPLY! Just uh...skim the surface a bit!I honestly thought they'd have just taken the cop out way, and just went back to New York. Go through the hole in the sky, kill Thanos there and just explain that the rules of time travel in this universe are that you can actually change the timeline and nothing is written in stone (doctor who shit basically). Rather than setting up alternate universes, especially since they kind of totally botched their own time travel stuff with the Cap ending. Which again, I'm fine with because I love me some fine American ass, but it makes absolutely no sense lol. yeah that's the thing with time travel stories, they all fall apart once you scratch the surface
but whatever it's fine. all we needed was cap with thor's hammer and some fine american ass
Personally, I don't really care about time travel rules because it's either doctor who nothing is truly permanent, except certain fixed events that always have to happen, or like Primer. You can be silly or strict. But they basically went for both, and it works mostly with a little wiggle room on how smart Stark is/dedicated it actually is to fixing things until the very end when it just falls apart lol. I don't know how they didn't realize that unless it was intentionally done in case Chris Evans just decides he wants to do another one some time, or in like 10-15 years (he's 37 now so he'd still be young enough), they do some multiversal collapse thing. Which they sort of, kind of, hint at a bit in the shows and not too much in the movies with the 616 references. Which in case you don't know is the universe where all the Marvel stuff takes place in comics wise, except a certain branch of comics, until a few years ago when they did exactly that. Personally, I think everything is gonna culminate into being secret war(s) based on the success of Captain Marvel, the Russos seemingly nailing everything they touch and them saying that's the only thing left for them to do that they'd be interested in with Marvel. And then wrapping it all up after that with a multiversal collapse thing, that way they can reboot in 15ish years. When they've exhausted all the characters that are actually interesting.
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Post by Lampz on Apr 27, 2019 0:07:58 GMT
also the scene in the diner with hulk and ant man is probably the most i've laughed at one of these movies. ruffalo was hilarious
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 27, 2019 0:08:10 GMT
OutRosez im assuming you followed a lot of the promotional and pre hype stuff. who did you expect to die going in? Literally the three who did lol. I got a lot of RDJ wanted out vibes after the phase of movies since he was pretty blatant about wanting to do Iron Man 3 before Avengers and wanting to wrap up his solo movies then. It took a while for the Russos to get him to agree to do Civil War, and he's just old. He gave off a lot of the Harrison Ford/Han Solo TFA vibes. Except that we didn't know for years he wanted his character to die then  Chris Evans has stated a lot throughout the last few years that he wanted to go, and was ready to quit acting for a bit. Then he walked it back and just said the Cap role. Then he said he wanted to be a director and eventually Marvel made him stop saying that shit, and so he was like "I love being Captain America! But I know that eventually they won't want me anymore and I'm prepared for that!" And then with the soul stone stuff it just made sense for Black Widow to die. Because if you think about who's left, Rocket and Nebula don't really have that bond built up with any of the surviving characters except maybe Thor/Rocket but they aren't gonna off a god that way lol. So you're left with Captain Marvel who...they just met and she's out automatically based on that .Then the original 6. Captain America loved Agent Carter the rest of his life and basically only kissed two girls after being brought out of the ice that we know of, so there's no way for that to happen for him. Especially since their dynamic was strictly platonic. Tony's daughter and Pepper aren't traveling so they're out and him with him. The flaw here is that platonic love is what decided between her and Barton, but the way she deeply cares about the guy who gave her a second chance at life (or at least what's alluded to in the original Avengers) maybe there's some unrequited love there? Or maybe in a universe where you're basically all ripped away from your spouses it seems except Tony, that's good enough for the soul stone at that point lol. Now admittedly, I thought there was a chance that if the Hulk went she'd be the one to make it out. But with the way they changed the relationship between those two Post-Whedon it was dicey for me. I will say I was INSTANTLY concerned again when I was rewatching Infinity War 1 and saw how they reacted to seeing one another, but I was like ehhhh I don't know. 50/50 at best. Hawkeye's show being announced saved him.
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 27, 2019 0:10:49 GMT
Also it kind of upsets me they just flat out dropped the Widow/Hulk romance dynamic. That shit was really good.
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Post by Lampz on Apr 27, 2019 0:11:38 GMT
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Post by Lampz on Apr 27, 2019 0:12:38 GMT
Also it kind of upsets me they just flat out dropped the Widow/Hulk romance dynamic. That shit was really good. the russos probably saw that gif and said fuck this
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Post by OutRosez on Apr 27, 2019 0:13:31 GMT
I was like 40% concerned that Thanos/Thor is what the fight would come down to basically, and Thor would barely lose before Captain Marvel showed up to save the day with feminism. But after the first 20 minutes I was significantly less worried about that happening. And then immensely concerned when they were somehow struggled when he has no infinity stones lol.
But I mean Thor is probably my second favorite guy in these movies, and I legit would have been one of the guys that stayed after the credits to cry in silence. BUT LIKE A MAN I WAS DURING THE CREDITS!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 8:48:12 GMT
also the scene in the diner with hulk and ant man is probably the most i've laughed at one of these movies. ruffalo was hilarious hulk and thors acting has come so far through out the series
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 9:05:36 GMT
So 5 years in the future people still play fortnite. Guess they should have snapped and fixed that too
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2019 9:12:08 GMT
Can't wait for the shang chi solo film
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Post by tsk on Apr 27, 2019 13:07:58 GMT
What a beautiful ending for our homeys. STOP READING AFTER THIS POST IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE. mfw im breaking all the rules 
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