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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 17, 2016 19:28:07 GMT
according to you but not according to the American voters i'm very convinced that it's beneficial for a country having the people involved in the political decision making. What i will say doe is that USA is a whole different animal in terms of scale, you can't just take the Swiss model and multiply it by 40 According to the average American voter too. Thats the problem. You can be the largest minority and have a huge swathe of ideogical ground between you and the average voter. Trump represents that 35% very well and America as a whole very very poorly. how can 35% be "the problem" in a democracy? i think one better learns how to include them in the political decision making. We have to do that shit and it's definitely hard but not impossible imo |
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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 17, 2016 19:30:51 GMT
a co-worker is active in politics and he told me stories of working with like when they elected like some fucking redneck who doesn't speak any languages and has no clue about economics or anything. He sometimes loses it, i think it's pretty funny and also worth it.
that way they can't just all be "those bloody politicians do what they want anyway" when their guys are involved too
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 19:33:00 GMT
According to the average American voter too. Thats the problem. You can be the largest minority and have a huge swathe of ideogical ground between you and the average voter. Trump represents that 35% very well and America as a whole very very poorly. how can 35% be "the problem" in a democracy? i think one better learns how to include them in the political decision making. We have to do that shit and it's definitely hard but not impossible imo Its 35% of the republican primaries, not 35% of America. |
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 17, 2016 19:48:52 GMT
Dresta would be great for this thread alone. Lol, Id be glad to get dresta but Im pretty sure everyone hates him and he is definitely a massive bullshiter. Dresta is a proper Heat fan, posts on the RGM team subforum there with a David Hume avy. I'd say  , but i know I'm probably a minority on that. |
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 19:54:47 GMT
Lol, Id be glad to get dresta but Im pretty sure everyone hates him and he is definitely a massive bullshiter. Dresta is a proper Heat fan, posts on the RGM team subforum there with a David Hume avy. I'd say , but i know I'm probably a minority on that. Make a poll. Ill vote . |
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 17, 2016 19:55:38 GMT
Im on mobile now, so I cant vote on polls until I get back home
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 19:57:25 GMT
Im on mobile now, so I cant vote on polls until I get back home Im on mobile....I can vote.... |
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 17, 2016 19:58:50 GMT
Im using tapatalk so dass it prolly.
Still cba to do it, and imo we might be going overboard with recruitment this early as it stands.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 20:00:19 GMT
Im using tapatalk so dass it prolly. Still cba to do it, and imo we might be going overboard with recruitment this early as it stands. Yeah. We need to really talk more probably. |
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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 17, 2016 20:05:43 GMT
Tom and magnax serious??
i got him in my top 5 worst ISH team deluded idiots
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 20:07:34 GMT
Also it's funny given Mormon's argument that Trump can't get elected when he got 46-47% of the vote in Florida. A really racial diverse, various religions, tons of different age groups ( although the democrats are mostly old retirees from the midwest), and generally a different take on politics regionally compared to bordering states like Georgia and South Carolina. If anything Trump winning Florida how he did shows that he's not only going to win the nomination, but that his message probably doesn't have a hard cap like we thought. We're gonna see it again in a couple weeks with New York coming up but still. Hold this L. not true. Not sure how can I go about proving the first (perhaps I was a bit over broad with that statement though), but I am shocked about the South Carolina bit. Could I get some examples? Just some general things that South Carolina and Florida agree on. Off the top of my head it seems like immigration, gay marriage, generally abortion, and somewhat gun rights are at least different between the two aside from the panhandle. |
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Post by SugarHill on Mar 17, 2016 20:11:10 GMT
Tom and magnax serious?? i got him in my top 5 worst ISH team deluded idiots I enjoy watching him trip over himself as he shits on liberals and sticks up for conservatives but at the same time pretending to have no ideological stance. |
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 17, 2016 20:11:15 GMT
South Carolina doesn't border Florida, crows u dummy
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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 17, 2016 20:14:41 GMT
Tom and magnax serious?? i got him in my top 5 worst ISH team deluded idiots I enjoy watching him trip over himself as he shits on liberals and sticks up for conservatives but at the same time pretending to have no ideological stance. fair enough, maybe it would be funny. i mean, i got time to waste but i don't have time like THAT. those essays are freaking huge and full of incoherent fuckery like seriously, can anybody link me to one good post of him? |
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 20:20:14 GMT
He used to post a lot of empty shit, but hes definitely gotten better. Hes a bullshiter like I said. Claims to have a masters in econ, but there is like 0 chance of that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 7:37:25 GMT
Low key Sanders supporter, have donated a few hundred. Not married to all of his ideas, but like single payer healthcare and some more regulation (some of his Wall Street proposals sound out there, but some of my old econ texts have discussed them with legitimacy). He doesn't have much hope left, short of an indictment or an unprecedented reversal of fortune.
I think Trump is a lunatic, but Hillary leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, and would vote against her in the general. Have a friend from HS who links multiple memes from the 'Economic Illiterates for Bernie Sanders' group on FB, with tons of pro-Hillary nonsense. Would never vote for her.
That being said, I'm largely politically apathetic. Only really get interested during presidential election years, and drop it thereafter. I like a lot of FiveThirtyEight's coverage though.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 18, 2016 7:59:12 GMT
I enjoy watching him trip over himself as he shits on liberals and sticks up for conservatives but at the same time pretending to have no ideological stance. fair enough, maybe it would be funny. i mean, i got time to waste but i don't have time like THAT. those essays are freaking huge and full of incoherent fuckery like seriously, can anybody link me to one good post of him? |
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 18, 2016 8:02:30 GMT
Low key Sanders supporter, have donated a few hundred. Not married to all of his ideas, but like single payer healthcare and some more regulation (some of his Wall Street proposals sound out there, but some of my old econ texts have discussed them with legitimacy). He doesn't have much hope left, short of an indictment or an unprecedented reversal of fortune. I think Trump is a lunatic, but Hillary leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, and would vote against her in the general. Have a friend from HS who links multiple memes from the 'Economic Illiterates for Bernie Sanders' group on FB, with tons of pro-Hillary nonsense. Would never vote for her. That being said, I'm largely politically apathetic. Only really get interested during presidential election years, and drop it thereafter. I like a lot of FiveThirtyEight's coverage though. I'm surprised you donated to politics as it isn't deductible on your tax return, so you don't really a benefit from it, especially when this is just the primaries before the main presidential election. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 8:10:19 GMT
Low key Sanders supporter, have donated a few hundred. Not married to all of his ideas, but like single payer healthcare and some more regulation (some of his Wall Street proposals sound out there, but some of my old econ texts have discussed them with legitimacy). He doesn't have much hope left, short of an indictment or an unprecedented reversal of fortune. I think Trump is a lunatic, but Hillary leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, and would vote against her in the general. Have a friend from HS who links multiple memes from the 'Economic Illiterates for Bernie Sanders' group on FB, with tons of pro-Hillary nonsense. Would never vote for her. That being said, I'm largely politically apathetic. Only really get interested during presidential election years, and drop it thereafter. I like a lot of FiveThirtyEight's coverage though. I'm surprised you donated to politics as it isn't deductible on your tax return, so you don't really a benefit from it, especially when this is just the primaries before the main presidential election. I donated to Obama in the 08 primaries well (and a few bucks to Howard Dean in 04). Nothing tangible to gain, but it feels good to support a legitimate progressive candidate (even if they're hopeless ideologues), given all the irritating Hillary supporters on my FB (they were around back then too). |
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 18, 2016 8:14:46 GMT
What do people see in Hillary? Her surname and what else?
I'm legitimately asking, since I don't think I know anyone at all that supports her. Most younger people I know with a political interest lean much more towards Bernard. (unrelated but i personally find something off about calling a grown 70 year old man a nickname like that lol)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 8:17:08 GMT
What do people see in Hillary? Her surname and what else? I'm legitimately asking, since I don't think I know anyone at all that supports her. Most younger people I know with a political interest lean much more towards Bernard. (unrelated but i personally find something off about calling a grown 70 year old man a nickname like that lol) At least half of her support comes down to the first female president thing. If people were hooked up to a polygraph, guarantee that would be reason 1 or 2 for a huge amount of her voter base. |
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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 18, 2016 8:55:38 GMT
fair enough, maybe it would be funny. i mean, i got time to waste but i don't have time like THAT. those essays are freaking huge and full of incoherent fuckery like seriously, can anybody link me to one good post of him? LOL i take it back  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 13:38:04 GMT
Report last night said Sanders conceded defeat. Is this legit?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 19:05:32 GMT
Report last night said Sanders conceded defeat. Is this legit? I don't think so. He conceded defeat in Missouri. Didn't want to bother with a recount since even if he made up the difference (1200 votes) it likely wouldn't result in any more delegates being awarded. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 19:12:59 GMT
Report last night said Sanders conceded defeat. Is this legit? I don't think so. He conceded defeat in Missouri. Didn't want to bother with a recount since even if he made up the difference (1200 votes) it likely wouldn't result in any more delegates being awarded. this is correct the majority of the states remaining favor bernie, he has raised too much money to concede until the convention |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 23:19:00 GMT
He used to post a lot of empty shit, but hes definitely gotten better. Hes a bullshiter like I said. Claims to have a masters in econ, but there is like 0 chance of that. That's not even a big deal, why is there no chance of him having that? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 23:20:17 GMT
Low key Sanders supporter, have donated a few hundred. Not married to all of his ideas, but like single payer healthcare and some more regulation (some of his Wall Street proposals sound out there, but some of my old econ texts have discussed them with legitimacy). He doesn't have much hope left, short of an indictment or an unprecedented reversal of fortune. I think Trump is a lunatic, but Hillary leaves a terrible taste in my mouth, and would vote against her in the general. Have a friend from HS who links multiple memes from the 'Economic Illiterates for Bernie Sanders' group on FB, with tons of pro-Hillary nonsense. Would never vote for her. That being said, I'm largely politically apathetic. Only really get interested during presidential election years, and drop it thereafter. I like a lot of FiveThirtyEight's coverage though. Single payer healthcare is defintely the way to go. Doesn't make sense to have millions of insurances in on this. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 0:26:36 GMT
Is it safe to say the Republican party is on it's last legs.
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, but i know I'm probably a minority on that.
