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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 3:48:01 GMT
Just made this so its here when we need it (the weekend)
Anyway we should figure out what we want such as
How much moderation
What kind of moderation
How many people we want to bring here
If we should invest in our own forum at some later point
How many subforums we should have
Anything else
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 4:19:23 GMT
Are we the only women here?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 4:20:44 GMT
Magnax, your recruitment of itare has not gone unnoticed.
Well done.
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Post by Don Rumata on Mar 17, 2016 7:15:07 GMT
i see this place as the gentlemen's club
with the current members, it hardly needs moderation
when opening it, one has to deal with the e-savages
i would not censor anything in terms of content (holocaust denial and all that good stuff too) but i'd demand a respectful formulation at all times
form matters
also, keep 1 thread for 1 topic, don't allow hundreds of threads of the same thing flood your board like for example the refugee stuff on that ISH site. just merge them into one.
more later
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 14:14:26 GMT
i see this place as the gentlemen's club with the current members, it hardly needs moderation when opening it, one has to deal with the e-savages i would not censor anything in terms of content (holocaust denial and all that good stuff too) but i'd demand a respectful formulation at all times form matters also, keep 1 thread for 1 topic, don't allow hundreds of threads of the same thing flood your board like for example the refugee stuff on that ISH site. just merge them into one. more later Good stuff Mr Don!
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 21:15:37 GMT
I think we should have light moderation, but make it firm. I agree with Don that no topic should be above discussion, but I also get really tired of the shit Harry did, calling people niggers and other forms of overt and extreme racism. We should have a very small set of rules that should not be crossed. If they continue to break them, they should be gone. The problem with ISH is not a lack of rules, but extremely inconsistent enforcement.
We probably only need one person who can ban for now. Maybe add KB later.
I think we should try to surpass ISH, and....
Like I said in the long term, I would be willing to invest in our own forum when I have the $$$. Maybe in a year or two.
Maybe we have too many? I don't know. Think of how empty most of ISH's subforums were....
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 21:17:19 GMT
Also, we should stop adding more people until we all agree on a constitution and set of rules.
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Post by Tom Is Dead on Mar 17, 2016 21:21:22 GMT
why does there need to be a constitution?
rule 1. don't be a twat. rule 2. no snitching
das it mane
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 21:26:07 GMT
Also, we should stop adding more people until we all agree on a constitution and set of rules. The core plan (as I see it) is that we add as many as we can at once on one given day in the future. That day is neither near nor far. But in the interim we add one or two as we see fit to help move the plan along.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 21:28:43 GMT
why does there need to be a constitution? rule 1. don't be a twat. rule 2. no snitching das it mane Because that's just asking for someone to start banning people they just don't like. Also, one more thing that should be an insta-ban; posting pics of people or personal information.
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Post by Steve Nash on Mar 17, 2016 21:34:26 GMT
why does there need to be a constitution? rule 1. don't be a twat. rule 2. no snitching das it mane Because that's just asking for someone to start banning people they just don't like. Also, one more thing that should be an insta-ban; posting pics of people or personal information. I'm not going to be making the ability to ban a widespread thing, that has never, ever gone well on any board/server I've moderated/admin'd for. Rage bans/dislike bans won't be allowed.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 17, 2016 21:37:40 GMT
The way I view it
As long as people are backing up their claim with arguments in regards to sports, then they can insult the person as much as they want. Simplistic arguments ie 2/7, etc is not the right message I'm trying to convey.
Outside of Sports, we're very lenient. Just no spamming of NSFW pics in General Discussion when we have a NSFW, no laughing at any posters who have families that got cancer or something (something obvious), you can bait if you want for the lulz just not ISB/Cactus level type shit.
Don't snitch this location is another one, but obviously it won't last.
The goal of moderation is to make sure things don't go too far or go too shitty in quality that the thread becomes unreadable.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 17, 2016 21:40:26 GMT
Also I think we shouldn't insta ban people we hate or dislike or ban them.
But a considerable temporary punishment is in order like ban people from posting a particular subforum (if it's really minor) or a whole day temporarily while we think of a way to approach this problem with a solution.
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Post by dm on Mar 17, 2016 22:55:30 GMT
"I think we should try to surpass ISH, and...."
So is the ultimate goal to be a regular forum, not just a BTE/OTC(minus the troll shitfest) forum?
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 22:58:09 GMT
"I think we should try to surpass ISH, and...." So is the ultimate goal to be a regular forum, not just a BTE/OTC(minus the troll shitfest) forum? Well if you dont think so, here is your (and everyone else's) chance to say.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 23:00:09 GMT
Because that's just asking for someone to start banning people they just don't like. Also, one more thing that should be an insta-ban; posting pics of people or personal information. I'm not going to be making the ability to ban a widespread thing, that has never, ever gone well on any board/server I've moderated/admin'd for. Rage bans/dislike bans won't be allowed. I didnt think anyone was going to go around banning everyone. Its important that there is a clear set of rules so we dont argue over who is to be banned. My second point was more important anyway. We had problems with that in the BTE before.
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Post by Steve Nash on Mar 17, 2016 23:05:04 GMT
I'm not going to be making the ability to ban a widespread thing, that has never, ever gone well on any board/server I've moderated/admin'd for. Rage bans/dislike bans won't be allowed. I didnt think anyone was going to go around banning everyone. Its important that there is a clear set of rules so we dont argue over who is to be banned. My second point was more important anyway. We had problems with that in the BTE before. Gotcha. Agreed on the second point, Lebron23ing is definitely a bad thing.
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Post by dm on Mar 17, 2016 23:07:03 GMT
"I think we should try to surpass ISH, and...." So is the ultimate goal to be a regular forum, not just a BTE/OTC(minus the troll shitfest) forum? Well if you dont think so, here is your (and everyone else's) chance to say. originally, i thought this was for BTErs to escape OTC shitfest. but a legit diverse forum is fine. it'll keep the board active for the longterm at least.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 17, 2016 23:10:24 GMT
Well if you dont think so, here is your (and everyone else's) chance to say. originally, i thought this was for BTErs to escape OTC shitfest. but a legit diverse forum is fine. it'll keep the board active for the longterm at least. Tbh, the BTE wont last even with all of us if there arent new people.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 17, 2016 23:19:56 GMT
originally, i thought this was for BTErs to escape OTC shitfest. but a legit diverse forum is fine. it'll keep the board active for the longterm at least. Tbh, the BTE wont last even with all of us if there arent new people. You're right. It won't last because we might have better career jobs that would not allow us to have freetime.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 0:43:48 GMT
I'm not going to be making the ability to ban a widespread thing, that has never, ever gone well on any board/server I've moderated/admin'd for. Rage bans/dislike bans won't be allowed. I didnt think anyone was going to go around banning everyone. Its important that there is a clear set of rules so we dont argue over who is to be banned. My second point was more important anyway. We had problems with that in the BTE before. Not true. I'm gonna ban you so hard and often
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 0:45:08 GMT
yeah we absolutely have to grow this if we want it to be successful
i'm cool with pretty much everything mags suggested tbh
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 18, 2016 0:50:45 GMT
I didnt think anyone was going to go around banning everyone. Its important that there is a clear set of rules so we dont argue over who is to be banned. My second point was more important anyway. We had problems with that in the BTE before. Not true. I'm gonna ban you so hard and often #modsnotgods
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Post by blablabla on Mar 18, 2016 1:41:59 GMT
Blatant unoriginal unfunny trolling ----> banhammer
and the constitution shall be written in old timey english
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 2:01:51 GMT
how bans will be carried out
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 2:10:30 GMT
One thing about ISH is how often threads will be highjacked for petty beefs from another thread. Posters will follow each other and keep their little cat fight going. If that ever becomes a problem here, I want the instigator banned for that.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 18, 2016 2:14:17 GMT
Blatant unoriginal unfunny trolling ----> banhammer and the constitution shall be written in old timey english I don't like dumb repetitive trolling either, but I'm not sure it should be banned outright.
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Post by Hellfire Missile Pack on Mar 18, 2016 2:19:11 GMT
One thing about ISH is how often threads will be highjacked for petty beefs from another thread. Posters will follow each other and keep their little cat fight going. If that ever becomes a problem here, I want the instigator banned for that. I'd give off a warning instead. Tell them to knock it off or action will need to be taken since the quality of thread has turned into shit.
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Post by Skipping February🚧✊🏿🚫 on Mar 18, 2016 2:23:49 GMT
One thing about ISH is how often threads will be highjacked for petty beefs from another thread. Posters will follow each other and keep their little cat fight going. If that ever becomes a problem here, I want the instigator banned for that. I'd give off a warning instead. Tell them to knock it off or action will need to be taken since the quality of thread has turned into shit. 100% agree. Once again, I don't want modding to be too harsh. If someone is just a useless poster and that's all they do, then fine, ban them, but this is going to happen somewhat regularly unless you just go off banning a shitload of people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 2:27:49 GMT
i'm quite sure when it comes to bans, there probably won't be much dispute in most cases, a poster will have caused so much shit/problems that it would likely be a unanimous vote on the ban
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