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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 16:28:51 GMT
I'm leaning coop
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Post by Bob on Jul 14, 2016 16:34:30 GMT
im leaning A.B.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 16:57:36 GMT
Your opinion is insulting and unwelcome. Put an egg in your shoe and beat it!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 17:02:33 GMT
These team battles isn't just which characters are more powerful. It's also about team chemistry and prep \ equipment. I feel like my team is better in 2\3 of those categories.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 17:27:40 GMT
These team battles isn't just which characters are more powerful. It's also about team chemistry and prep \ equipment. I feel like my team is better in 2\3 of those categories. I demonstrated how any issues with team chemistry are being handled by my team. Having a very capable tactician and fighter at the helm (not to mention genius with computers) to plan the attack allows for this. Broken down into categories, my team has the most powerful: Magician: Dr. Fate, Zatanna > Enchantress Brawler: Doomsday > Juggernaut Telepath: Despero > Professor X >>>Martian Manhunter The way I see our two full teams fighting, the only one who doesn't have an easily exploitable weakness IMO is Captain Atom. Despero easily handles MM and WW and GL (He has before) Zatanna handles Black Adam Lobo easily handles Xavier (he's basically immune to telepathic attacks) Dr. Fate has a good battle with Captain Atom, but can best him with speed, and incredible magical ability These are the heavy hitters in our matchup, and to me, it's a more favorable matchup for team Coop. All it takes is Azrael to recognize that he needs cooperation from Despero, which he'll have once he knows he gets the opportunity to mindrape MM, WW and GL in the coming battle. Despero can telepathically restrain Doomsday and Grodd enough to where they can not go berzerk on their own team.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 17:29:42 GMT
Despero has mind-controlled multiple members of the league before, this is childs-play for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 17:41:20 GMT
First off if your team members have to mind control each other that's not a great start imo. Who's to say they don't attack each other after the mind control wears off lol. Also in team battles you don't always get favorable matchups. With chacters like mirror master telporting teamates out of danger that changes the planning your team has. Your also forgeting ever member has a force field that can withstand hits from Gl, Flash and superman.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 17:51:53 GMT
First off if your team members have to mind control each other that's not a great start imo. Who's to say they don't attack each other after the mind control wears off lol. Also in team battles you don't always get favorable matchups. With chacters like mirror master telporting teamates out of danger that changes the planning your team has. Your also forgeting ever member has a force field that can withstand hits from Gl, Flash and superman. 1. Disagree 2. That's not how mind control works, and Despero's mind control doesn't just "wear off". 3. Here's something you're not addressing. Why is mirror master going to have any sort of instinct besides self preservation? He's on a planet flooded with lava that's filled with people who could kill him super easily, and he's going to be altruistic to people he doesn't care about? nah, I'm not on that at all. My team uses mind control to build cohesiveness. Yours doesn't have cohesiveness because you have a combination of villians and heros that won't get along and you have no contingency plan for. 4. If you could provide a scan of Braniac-5 doing anything close to a feat of creating a forcefiled for 12 total individuals that could withstand anything comprable to the magic of Dr Fate, Lobo's planet busting guns, Doomsday's stronger than superman punches, Firestorm's transmutation, then I'll consider this a valid argument. As for now, I'm considering it hogwash. Telepathically-bound team >>>>Team filled with people who won't get along.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 17:57:39 GMT
First off Professor x and MM aren't powerful telepaths lol. Second mirror masters will be under the orders off Branic and Captain Cold who he highly respects. Branic already knows how to make his force field belts he's the smartest dc hero.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:03:06 GMT
Also why would Mirror Master be worried about the enivorment if he has a force field and flight ring that would protect him. Plus he won't be doing the heavy hitting and will act as support.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:08:53 GMT
Also why would Mirror Master be worried about the enivorment if he has a force field and flight ring that would protect him. Plus he won't be doing the heavy hitting and will act as support.Why? ? He's not altruistic at all. that's what I'm saying about chemistry. You can't rip on my team for being telpathcially bonded as a knock against chemistry, then just act like baddies will get along with heroes for no reason
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:10:14 GMT
First off Professor x and MM aren't powerful telepaths lol. Second mirror masters will be under the orders off Branic and Captain Cold who he highly respects. Branic already knows how to make his force field belts he's the smartest dc hero. ......................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................wut
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:16:52 GMT
What did you not understand?
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:19:21 GMT
Is your statement "Martian Manhunter and Professor X are not powerful telepaths lol" mocking me not ranking them above Despero? Cause they aren't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:21:57 GMT
Also why would Mirror Master be worried about the enivorment if he has a force field and flight ring that would protect him. Plus he won't be doing the heavy hitting and will act as support.Why? ? He's not altruistic at all. that's what I'm saying about chemistry. You can't rip on my team for being telpathcially bonded as a knock against chemistry, then just act like baddies will get along with heroes for no reason Like I said he is under the orders of captain cold who he highly respects.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:25:50 GMT
Is your statement "Martian Manhunter and Professor X are not powerful telepaths lol" mocking me not ranking them above Despero? Cause they aren't. No I'm stating that their powerful telpaths also never mentioned despero.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:29:59 GMT
Lol I'm confused. So I didn't argue that your team didn't have powerful telepaths, I just said that Despero > Xavier >>> MM (which IMO is accurate). I just said that my team has the edge for telepathy with Despero being the strongest.
Dr. Fate also dabbles in telepathy when he wants to, but this is the kind of thing where there are so many people involved with a plethora of powers that I can literally be arguing this for days.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:34:38 GMT
Also you never mentioned how you will deal with the rogues now that they all have flight and force field belts they become even more dangerous now.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:39:26 GMT
The whole forcefields argument is contingent on Braniac-5 staying alive/active. You say his forcefields can hold up to GL and Supes...but how about magic? Dr. Fate has broken through barriers created by Spectre before (who is substantially more powerful than Braniac), he would have no trouble getting to Braniac.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 18:45:51 GMT
The whole team will have it not just Braniac also dr fate would be kept busy by heros attacking him.
I also have chacters with strong resistance to magic WW, Black Adam and Captain Atom.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 14, 2016 18:50:15 GMT
The whole team will have it not just Braniac also dr fate would be kept busy buy heros attacking him. I also have chacters with strong resistance to magic WW, Black Adam and Captain Atom. They wouldn't have lasting effects from the force field when brainiac gets KOd
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 20:48:50 GMT
I'm leaning on AB for team cohesion reasons, but keep arguing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 21:55:18 GMT
Wish I found this scan in the earlier
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 23:04:47 GMT
Weather Wizard lighting attacks will are very powerful, fast and accurate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 23:07:45 GMT
Fast enough to hit Jay Garrick.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 23:12:32 GMT
Can create fog so dense Flash can't see he can help his teammates by being a nuisance to the enemy.
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Post by bladefd on Jul 15, 2016 0:49:35 GMT
Get your popcorn ready!
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Post by Bob on Jul 15, 2016 1:08:32 GMT
AntiHero is what Joe Rogan would look like if he had hair
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 15, 2016 1:35:17 GMT
Wish I found this scan in the earlier With or without context this is maybe the dumbest thing I've ever seen. How the eff can somebody's skin be impervious to magic? Magic isn't really definable, and there are thousands of different types. Dr. Fate is crazy different from Zatanna, who is crazy different from Sersi, who is crazy different from Shazam/Black Adam, who is crazy different from Dr. Strange who is crazy different from Etrigan....etc etc etc. Unless you can show me a legitimate scan of CA being resistant to somebody like Dr. Fate I'm chocking that scan up to the laziest POS writing I've ever seen. Saying "You're skin is impervious to magic" is like saying you're skin is impervious to mutants lol.
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Post by coopernicus on Jul 15, 2016 1:36:50 GMT
Actually, Barry Allen is faster than lightning lol
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