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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 7, 2016 17:49:56 GMT
Man so many strong guys are done dirty this round.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 7, 2016 18:12:48 GMT
quick question....is this cyborg superman hank henshaw or zor-el?
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Post by Rondo on Jun 7, 2016 18:38:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 18:42:01 GMT
It's Hank!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 18:43:19 GMT
Enchantress overwhelms wonder woman, cyborg and Superman.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 7, 2016 18:48:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 18:53:23 GMT
Survives being taken over by deadmen and having her body blown up from inside out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 18:55:58 GMT
wreaks havoc across the globe.
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 7, 2016 18:57:59 GMT
Nate Grey Creates PSI Armor: Hurts Hulk Resists Thanos squeeze and then hurts him. Full potential: Becomes a being of pure energy Shields: So strong, he's only as weak as his mind wants to be.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 7, 2016 19:12:31 GMT
Yea only thing Cyborg Superman will have on him is he is a cyborg, so he wont be able to use his telepathic powers on him (unless someone can find cyborg sups getting effected by telepathic powers)
Nate is omega level, only real weakness is his connection with Cable, when Cable is around he gets a great pain and can't focus, so unless cable is somehow strolling on by in the savage land while they are fighting, idk how cyborg sups wins this.
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 19:29:01 GMT
Yea only thing Cyborg Superman will have on him is he is a cyborg, so he wont be able to use his telepathic powers on him (unless someone can find cyborg sups getting effected by telepathic powers) Nate is omega level, only real weakness is his connection with Cable, when Cable is around he gets a great pain and can't focus, so unless cable is somehow strolling on by in the savage land while they are fighting, idk how cyborg sups wins this. The first rule of comic book draft is don't argue against yourself in the comic book draft.
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 19:50:32 GMT
Loki' s magical prowess is beyond the Enchantress... Silver Surfer declares that Loki's power "can decimate a planet!!" From Silver Surfer #4: This is no mere boast as Loki literally permits Surfer to traverse past Galactus' barrier in Silver Surfer #4:
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 19:54:02 GMT
Loki's power is so great that he has also managed to trap and contain Mistress Death herself against her will, from Deadpool #34:
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 19:57:40 GMT
Doctor Strange isnt allowed in this thing right? A single blast from his true physical form results in "grueling strain" on Dr. Strange's part in Journey Into Mystery #108:
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 7, 2016 20:08:38 GMT
Yea only thing Cyborg Superman will have on him is he is a cyborg, so he wont be able to use his telepathic powers on him (unless someone can find cyborg sups getting effected by telepathic powers) Nate is omega level, only real weakness is his connection with Cable, when Cable is around he gets a great pain and can't focus, so unless cable is somehow strolling on by in the savage land while they are fighting, idk how cyborg sups wins this. The first rule of comic book draft is don't argue against yourself in the comic book draft. The second rule of comic book draft is, if you don't know it happened and can't find scans, say it anyway and hope judges buy what you're selling.
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Post by Rondo on Jun 7, 2016 20:15:52 GMT
Yea I am still trying to get a feel for all of this....
I got shit for arguing doom vs reed too much, and that was a closer fight than this, so thought there was nothing I could really argue here.
Nothin I can really pull out of my ass on this one, Nate is way too powerful....saying cyborg sups defeats nate would make me look ridiculous
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Post by TheEther on Jun 7, 2016 20:44:48 GMT
Gonna be gone for 3 hours. Then I will give my arguments for the last two battles Guy Gardener and Firelord. If Blade put who I think for his last spot I at least tie.
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 20:53:35 GMT
The first rule of comic book draft is don't argue against yourself in the comic book draft. The second rule of comic book draft is, if you don't know it happened and can't find scans, say it anyway and hope judges buy what you're selling. True story although for me it's been too early to pull out the he's capable of this even if I have no scan strategy
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Post by bladefd on Jun 7, 2016 21:05:29 GMT
Gonna be gone for 3 hours. Then I will give my arguments for the last two battles Guy Gardener and Firelord. If Blade put who I think for his last spot I at least tie. There he is! The man of the hour. I thought you had been infected by the zombie virus or something when you were nowhere to be found.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 22:12:47 GMT
KillbotJust so I fully understand trumping and prepping, you can do two total actions right? Like you can either trump twice, trump and prep once each, or prep twice in a given round right? If that's the case I'd like to submit a formal complaint that Outbreak trumped once and prepped twice this round Nah he's doing it right. Per Round against a GM: You can trump as much as you like, but trumping 4 of your characters would leave you at best a team battle situation instead of winning against the GM He can prep any of 2 of his 8 characters, including trumped ones. So I can have it like this 1. Superman trumped with Batman (prepped) 2. Dr. Doom trumped with Cyborg Superman (prepped) 3. Batman (<-- this is forfeit since Batman has been used) 4. Cyborg Superman (<-- this is forfeit since Cyber Superman has been used) 5-8. The rest without trump or prep (cannot prep anymore) Unless you changed the rules, this doesn't work. If you prepped one trumped pair, then you lose your second prep option. You only have two prep options if you're prepping single characters or characters that come in a pair or team.
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 7, 2016 22:29:05 GMT
Unless you changed the rules, this doesn't work. If you prepped one trumped pair, then you lose your second prep option. You only have two prep options if you're prepping single characters or characters that come in a pair or team. You can't just prep one single character out of the pair? Superman will be more wasteful to use as prep when there are other characters better suited. Why would one need to prep Superman, when I can use Batman to do it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2016 23:01:26 GMT
Unless you changed the rules, this doesn't work. If you prepped one trumped pair, then you lose your second prep option. You only have two prep options if you're prepping single characters or characters that come in a pair or team. You can't just prep one single character out of the pair? Superman will be more wasteful to use as prep when there are other characters better suited. Why would one need to prep Superman, when I can use Batman to do it? It doesn't work that way. That's practically finding a loophole in the system. If Batman trumped with Superman are prepped, then they both get the info of their opponent(s) and plan together as a duo. I know Batman is the thinker of the two, but to claim only Batman is prepped and Superman isn't, is not fair compare to those characters prepped by themselves with no trumped teammates. That's why prepping a trump is a risking move, because you're surrendering your second prep. It's like trumping two characters together leads to a forfeit. There has to be consequence for this action or it wouldn't be a risk.
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Post by Bob on Jun 7, 2016 23:02:37 GMT
well killbot said what i'd done was legal. i don't mind someone else can run my team anyway i don't have time to find scans of things which seems vital. And so it begins..
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 8, 2016 0:18:35 GMT
You can't just prep one single character out of the pair? Superman will be more wasteful to use as prep when there are other characters better suited. Why would one need to prep Superman, when I can use Batman to do it? It doesn't work that way. That's practically finding a loophole in the system. If Batman trumped with Superman are prepped, then they both get the info of their opponent(s) and plan together as a duo. I know Batman is the thinker of the two, but to claim only Batman is prepped and Superman isn't, is not fair compare to those characters prepped by themselves with no trumped teammates. That's why prepping a trump is a risking move, because you're surrendering your second prep. It's like trumping two characters together leads to a forfeit. There has to be consequence for this action or it wouldn't be a risk. Nothing gets passed this guy
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Post by bladefd on Jun 8, 2016 3:12:28 GMT
I don't even see the benefit of trumping tbh. There is no inherent benefit from probability perspective. -If you trump and other person does too, you are both going 1-1 because you are both surrendering 1 matchup. -If you trump and other person does not, then you are forfeiting a matchup. This is worth it if the character you trump faces a character you would not otherwise beat 1v1. -If you don't trump and other person does, you are somewhat at an advantage going in because you are guaranteed to win the forfeit before you ever face your opponent.
Trumping makes sense if you are a) outmatched, or b) face matchups that work perfectly (gang up/beat on overpowered opponent's characters, another opponent's overpowered characters get forfeit). A is if you are outmatched so you have to hope the trump ends up beating the 1 overpowered character and the forfeited character is also overpowered -- you go 1-1 against 2 overpowered opponent's characters. B is impossible to know ahead of time. In the end, it is best from a pure strategical perspective to not trump at all unless if you are outmatched. Even then, I would be careful.
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Post by Anti Hero on Jun 8, 2016 3:28:14 GMT
Lightray trump Superman FTW!
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Post by Scottie4Hottie on Jun 8, 2016 3:55:18 GMT
Yea I am still trying to get a feel for all of this.... I got shit for arguing doom vs reed too much, and that was a closer fight than this, so thought there was nothing I could really argue here. Nothin I can really pull out of my ass on this one, Nate is way too powerful....saying cyborg sups defeats nate would make me look ridiculous I will never give you shit for arguing. I don't care how ludicrous a match up may be. The issue was if you prepped doom. He would have won straight up. No matter the arguments boogie may present for Mr. Fantastic.
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 8, 2016 6:15:13 GMT
Update on the Matchups ZeN (4-2) vs American Bad@$$ (2-4) Cassandra Nova Xavier [TSK, BWM] vs Wonder Woman Lord Helspont [Browntown] vs Martian Manhunter [BWM, TSK] Zoom [BWM, browntown] vs Black Adam [TSK] Nova [TSK] vs Captain Atom [browntown, BWM] ION [BWM, TSK, browntown] vs Rogues (prepped) {Abra Kadabra, Captain Cold, Mirror Master, Weather Wizard} Sentinel (Alan Scott) [BWM, browntown, TSK] vs Professer X TheEther (3-3) vs blade (3-3) Starbrand(prepped) [Browntown, BWM] vs Vulcan [TSK] Orion [Browntown, BWM, TSK] vs PowerGirl Osiris vs Superman [TSK, BWM] Mon-El vs Black Bolt [browntown, TSK] Beta Ray Bill [BWM, TSK] vs Juggernaut Guy Gardner [TSK] vs Mongul Sr [BWM, browntown]Outbreak (1-5) vs Coopernicus (5-1) Etrigan paired/trumped Rachael Summers vs Zatanna (prep) [TSK, Boogie]Magneto (prepped) [Browntown, BWM, TSK] vs Carnage Hulk vs Doomsday [TSK, BWM]Apocalpyse vs The Flash [browntown, TSK]Cable vs Dr. Fate [BWM, TSK]Quicksilver vs Firestorm (Ronnie) [BWM, browntown, TSK]Rondo (2-4) vs Anti Hero (4-2) Deadpool/Taskmaster (prepped) vs Sinestro paired/trumped with Phobos [TSK, Boogie]Ultron vs Thor [Browntown, BWM]Defenders (prepped) {Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, Luke Cage} vs Sinestro paired/trumped with Phobos (FORFEIT) Dr. Doom vs Mr. Fantastic Reed Richards (prep) [browntown, TSK]Onslaught [BWM, TSK, browntown] vs Iron Man (prep) Atrocitus vs Hal Jordan GL [BWM, browntown, TSK]
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Post by bladefd on Jun 8, 2016 6:52:01 GMT
Yea I am still trying to get a feel for all of this.... I got shit for arguing doom vs reed too much, and that was a closer fight than this, so thought there was nothing I could really argue here. Nothin I can really pull out of my ass on this one, Nate is way too powerful....saying cyborg sups defeats nate would make me look ridiculous I will never give you shit for arguing. I don't care how ludicrous a match up may be. The issue was if you prepped doom. He would have won straight up. No matter the arguments boogie may present for Mr. Fantastic. Yea, it's fine to argue Rondo as long as you have a point to it. I fought hard for my first matchup Vulcan over Starbrand. Hell, I am still willing to return to that argument because I believe Vulcan would win but mehh. I made my main points and makes no sense to focus even more energy into that and further beat a dead cow. People get sick of it after a while. That is when competitions die and people stop participating. I just stopped when I felt I was pushing the line in my defiance for too long. Everyone knows when they reach that line
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 8, 2016 17:29:03 GMT
Final Matchups?
Has everybody adequately argued their case?
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