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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 16:42:52 GMT
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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 16:49:15 GMT
Incredibly faster than BA
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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 16:51:12 GMT
Zoom should win.. in a snap
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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 16:53:12 GMT
As a reminder... Hits harder than Superman..
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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 17:01:04 GMT
then shit i quit this argument if what i have to do is make the only argument that would make you happy. And no despite BA being fast hes not close to how fast Zoom would be in this fight and while time jumping not speed isnt the only factor in this fight it would be the only one that matters. Its not about speed btw its about time jumping. i just want you to substantiate your claim. and i don't want to make american badass's argument for him. but to me, saying that zoom will just enter the fight and hit ba with 100 punches at the speed of light isn't a strong enough scenario imo Then i guess arguing is moot considering Zoom and an amped up flash went around the world 12 times in less than a second and The flash couldnt win. Plus its logical to think that Zoom was holding back since his intent isnt to straightforward kill him. I can see how its not possible for Zoom to do infinite damage in under a second and how speed wouldn't be a factor...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 17:09:37 GMT
i just want you to substantiate your claim. and i don't want to make american badass's argument for him. but to me, saying that zoom will just enter the fight and hit ba with 100 punches at the speed of light isn't a strong enough scenario imo Then i guess arguing is moot considering Zoom and an amped up flash went around the world 12 times in less than a second and The flash couldnt win. Plus its logical to think that Zoom was holding back since his intent isnt to straightforward kill him. I can see how its not possible for Zoom to do infinite damage in under a second and how speed wouldn't be a factor... you've done what i asked you waiting on american badass to chime in anything.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 18:14:17 GMT
TSK Picks Round 2 ZeN vs AmericanB@da$$ Lord Helspont vs Martian Manhunter sorry zen. thought zooms argument stood out as the better plan of attack. TheEther vs Blade Orion vs PowerGirl thought this one was pretty clear. ya'll shoulda spent more time on this instead of dragging out the first round matchup lolOutbreak vs Coopernicus Magneto (prepped) vs Carnage prep is way too strong here. magneto easy. Rondo vs Anti-Hero Ultron vs Thor guess i don't really need to vote on this one since it is 2-0...So did I win round second?
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Post by Bob on Jun 1, 2016 18:18:54 GMT
TSK Picks Round 2 ZeN vs AmericanB@da$$ Lord Helspont vs Martian Manhunter sorry zen. thought zooms argument stood out as the better plan of attack. TheEther vs Blade Orion vs PowerGirl thought this one was pretty clear. ya'll shoulda spent more time on this instead of dragging out the first round matchup lolOutbreak vs Coopernicus Magneto (prepped) vs Carnage prep is way too strong here. magneto easy. Rondo vs Anti-Hero Ultron vs Thor guess i don't really need to vote on this one since it is 2-0...So did I win round second? We need boogies final word to make sure or a judgement from absent BrownTown
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 18:31:40 GMT
As for zoom this is another tough match up for me. I think he will likely wore him done for the win. However there's is a chance zoom might mess up he has been caught by green lantern constructs before. Black Adam lighting is very fast and powerful.
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:08:17 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:11:52 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:15:46 GMT
do i need to for prepped magneto vs carnage? i feel like every match should have a plan setout. makes it a lot more enjoyable to judge / keeps people invested.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:22:53 GMT
Black Adam Durability is very powerful it's going to take a lot of punches to even phase him. Also if zoom get to close he can get tagged by his shazamm lighting.
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:26:12 GMT
do i need to for prepped magneto vs carnage? i feel like every match should have a plan setout. makes it a lot more enjoyable to judge / keeps people invested. We're already in round 3 lol meant to quote @guyina4000dollarsuit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:27:00 GMT
Also his shazam lighting has a large blast radius and is known to spam them anytime he wants. go to 2:30.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:27:14 GMT
i feel like every match should have a plan setout. makes it a lot more enjoyable to judge / keeps people invested. We're already in round 3 lol im just trying to make a more enjoyable experience for everybody involved!!!
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:30:57 GMT
Matchup #3. Same battlefield, same conditions ZeN vs American Bad@$$ Zoom vs Black Adam TheEther vs blade Osiris vs Superman Outbreak vs Coopernicus Hulk vs Doomsday Rondo vs Anti Hero Defenders (prepped) {Daredevil, Elektra, Ghost Rider, Iron Fist, Luke Cage} vs Sinestro paired/trumped with Phobos Forfeited via trump usage matchup #1 @guyina4000dollarsuit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:33:07 GMT
doomsday kicks the hulks ass, bad match up for hulk. hulk need to fight puny humans lmao appreciate the honesty
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:33:21 GMT
Also if Black Adam feels like he's getting overwhelmed by Zoom he can take to flight and access the area it doesn't matter how fast zoom is he can't fly to harm him. Black Adam can then spam lighting down on the battlefield hopefully forcing zoom to retreat. Seeing how he can't harm him zoom leaves giving black Adam the win.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:36:14 GMT
lmao appreciate the honesty i'm only arguing what i think, i still think etrigan and racheal got short changed bad in my round one. someone he is a zatanna stan imo magic gets dominated by psychic powers every day really all it came down to was the fact that zatanna was prepped. if not etrigan / rachael win easy
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Post by Lowlife Dickwad on Jun 1, 2016 20:36:46 GMT
i'm only arguing what i think, i still think etrigan and racheal got short changed bad in my round one. someone he is a zatanna stan imo magic gets dominated by psychic powers every day Zatanna pretty hot doe.
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:37:12 GMT
lmao appreciate the honesty i'm only arguing what i think, i still think etrigan and racheal got short changed bad in my round one. someone he is a zatanna stan imo magic gets dominated by psychic powers every day Rachel Summers has been shown to not be able to handle magic though...that pretty much negates her being able to handle Zatanna...the prep was also crucial here, as Zat would have known exactly how to neutralize Etrigan right off the bat and had spells prepared.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:39:06 GMT
Also if Black Adam feels like he's getting overwhelmed by Zoom he can take to flight and access the area it doesn't matter how fast zoom is he can't fly to harm him. Black Adam can then spam lighting down on the battlefield hopefully forcing zoom to retreat. Seeing how he can't harm him zoom leaves giving black Adam the win. Also adding to this it doesn't matter if zoom can hit harder than superman. Black Adam has face and gone toe to toe with superman and taken many blows. He has faced the combined strength of dozens of heroes like JLA and others. His durability to take that many characters is really great.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:39:19 GMT
lmao appreciate the honesty i'm only arguing what i think, i still think etrigan and racheal got short changed bad in my round one. someone he is a zatanna stan imo magic gets dominated by psychic powers every day I'm not a fan of Zatanna at all, but the prep was the difference maker. Don't worry, Etrigan is such a wild card, I predict he's going to be a terror in future rounds. Just a bad luck of the draw.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:40:03 GMT
Even when faced with two superheros, a prepped Zatanna in this match up has the advantage for numerous reasons. Firstly, Zatanna has demonstrated her ability for precognition using Tarot cards 1. This, combined with obtaining information about her adversaries DNA, powers/abilities and prep time to prepare specific spells is huge. She essentially knows how the match will play out before Etrigan and Marvel Girl even know that there will be a match to begin with. Secondly, Etgrian, being a demon has common demonic weaknesses (notably to iron and religious icons) 2. Zatanna is one of the most powerful Sorceresses in the DC World and can conjure a 10 ton religious icon to neutralize Etrigan while dealing with Marvel Girl, which brings us to... Thridly, while being an extremely powerful telepath, Marvel Girl has a significant weakness to Magic 3. Zatanna has also shown adept ability with infiltrating peoples minds (like when she cleared memories from Dr Light, and even removed some of his intelligence) 4. Marvel Girl has no chance against a prepped Zatanna. A non-prepped Zatanna would certainly have struggled against the combined forces of Etrigan and Rachel Summers, but with the ability to prep, Zatanna picks up the easy W. Sources: 1. Batman R.I.P.: Heart of Hush, Part 2 of 5: The Last Good Day" Detective Comics 847 2. Identity Crisis #1-7 3. Excalibur Vol 1 #11 4. Demon Volume 3 #8 really all it came down to was the fact that zatanna was prepped. if not etrigan / rachael win easy doesn't matter, racheal got chronoskimming stuff, she can send etrigan back to before zatanna even wakes up, before shes even out of her diapers. how do you prep for that? outbreak
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:42:19 GMT
I'm not a fan of Zatanna at all, but the prep was the difference maker. Don't worry, Etrigan is such a wild card, I predict he's going to be a terror in future rounds. Just a bad luck of the draw. Its more rachaels power to send her paired partner back to before she preps that i think is being under rated. Zatanna has prep. She would have taken Etrigan out first, how I described in my first post. Rachel wouldn't have had a chance to send him back in this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:44:41 GMT
And Zatanna is smoking hot.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:45:18 GMT
As for round two has the judges made up their mind on the picks @boogiewoogiewam @teeesskay Scottie4Hottie
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Post by coopernicus on Jun 1, 2016 20:46:45 GMT
@guyina4000dollarsuit
How would Etrigan and Rachel have the trust to perform Chronoskimming when they have zero chemistry/relationship with eachother going into the fight? You think they're immediate thought upon Zatanna casting spells to surround Etrigan with Iron-made religious icons would be Etrigan letting this random chick infiltrate his mind and manipulate his consciousness?
You're underapreciating the limitatoins of chronoskimming.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 20:49:39 GMT
As for round two has the judges made up their mind on the picks @boogiewoogiewam @teeesskay Scottie4Hottie I'm sticking with what I initially.said
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