because he tried to set a plan in motion when they already had a plan, if he didn't send fin and rose off (2 maintenance workers remember not exactly super spies or leadership trained soldiers) then they'd never be dumb enough to trust a random criminal or at least not be dumb enough to share so much info with him that he could betray them which leads to all those transports being shot down instead of them focusing on the big ship.

also poe's fault they lost all their bombers and a bunch of pilots in the earlier attack leia ordered him back from too.

That's because they fucked it all up in this movie and through the lore they were building out lol. 

In the supposedly canon books, everyone knew the first order was around but no one did anything because there wasn't any proof that they were a sizable force. Leia couldn't get the Senate/Republic to fund an army so that's why in TFA its all a bunch of familiar faces basically in the control center and its another rag tag style operation. Leia sent her ambassador to Hosnian Prime, which is the home of the Senate now/the Republic's army because with the events on both Jakku/whatever Moz's planet is named they had proof and witnesses of how real and threatening the first order actually was. So Snoke had Hux blow up Hosnian Prime which weakened the entire Republic so a lot of the army was just decimated. That's why all the allies are in the outer rim at TLJ they were hiding basically. 

In the Leia book, which is a few years before the new trilogy they had tens of thousands of people working in the resistance but no one wanted to formerly launch an attack on what remained of the empire because they weren't convinced it was a threat/they were still rebuilding. But they said fuck all that and let's make more money and toss out the new lore we just made up to toss out the old lore we had before

i always found it funny how all the people entrusted to save the galaxy can barely fill up a small bar

Hoping Rian Johnson helps with that. I think why they don't is it would be Avengers-y if they eventually had the new resistance members team up with Rey/Poe/Finn in a mainline episode unless it was something background related like they did with the Rebels character(s?) appearing in TFA.

If that were true then the Jedi would all have been fucking the last 10000 years or whatever not being celibate. And we both know if they could they'd have made baby Yodas somehow by this point. Maybe they'll be the porgs of IX.

On a slightly unrelated note: I'm surprised no one took the Snoke line to Rey about her being the force's reaction to Kylo's power out of context and went with her being made by midichlorians

GOD! I have yet to see tis goodin' movie. Will you kids stop discussing this without me??

This film was just okay!

Its been a while but didn't Boba Fett track them through hyperspace in Empire? Or did he not need to because they didn't go through hyperspace?

I like how the whole plot for that part was the BSG's pilot episode though

i dont think they did

dunno

maybe

caravan of courage
empire
rotj
new hope
last jedi
rogue one
force awakens
rots
clone wars
pm
aotc
holiday special


haven't seen the prequels in abit though, all i remember of aotc is anakin and padme in the country and horrible diagloue. i barely remember rots either but i remember at the time thinking it was a big improvement. pm i remember the most of them and while it has some of the worst of the prequels it also has some cool shit mixed in looks wise and fight wise.

New Hope
Empire
Jedi
Force Awakens
Last Jedi
Rogue One
Phantom
Clones

Leia soaring through the air and some of the dialogue in last jedi was just as corny as anything in the prequels.

Last Jedi felt like a generic action movie that took place in the star wars universe and not an actual star wars movie.

Just saw star wars.

Technicality wise, it was a very good movie. Directing, production, cgi, cinematography even, very good. Acting was bit lacking but you know what, it was good enough. If we base it just on what I said so far, it's an A movie. Just misses out on A+ due to the acting.

Now do you know why it is a C+ movie? The story depth. Goes directly to the writing crew. I thought they completely ruined Luke Skywalker, and they just didn't get a feel for his personality. Luke is not one to give up completely like that. The Luke I know would have gone out, scouring the galaxy for why the jedi way keeps failing and indirectly giving birth to these dark sith lords, why it failed in pinpointing Palpatine. Perhaps it was something in the jedi teaching that was an issue and he realizes that from the very first jedi temple. But NONE of it happened. Luke ends up there because he gave up. He closed himself off from the force and just gave up. That ain't the Luke Skywalker I know.

And Snoke? WTF. He didn't sense Kylo Ren is on the verge of turning on him? Snoke looked so powerful reading Kylos mind before, controlled the admiral from vast distances away early in the movie, mindfucking Rey to figure out Lukes location, etc yet Kylo kills him that easily? Unbelievable. Writers built up Snoke in episode 7 and earlier in episode 8 beginning for THAT?

Where do you even go from here? Luke and Snoke are out of the picture. Luke can still show up in Reys mind like Yoda, but he can't come to the rescue or physically train Rey like a master and padawan. The jedi religion is truly dead with Luke. The original teachings were burned down too by Master Yoda there. That's it with traditional style Jedi?? Writers.....

Jedis have the power to create a force bubble around them to resist the effects of their surroundings for a short time. That was completely within bounds with the power of a Jedi.